American hedonism closes its eyes to death, and has been
incapable of exorcising the destructive power of the moment
with a wisdom like that of the Epicureans of antiquity.

- Octavio Paz
Death is un-American, and an affront to every citizen's inalienable
right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

- Arnold Toynbee
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"As long as such self-serving hypocrisy
motivates America's response, Ukraine will
only sink further into needless bloodshed,
and that blood will be on America's head."
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In America everybody is of the opinion that he has no social superiors,
since all men are equal, but he does not admit that he has no social inferiors,
for, from the time of Jefferson onward, the doctrine that all men are equal
applies only upwards, not downwards.

― Bertrand Russell
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"What those 'racists' are reflexively and rightly reacting
to is the soulless chill as the fire goes out beneath the
melting pot. Those who think America can thrive as a
'cultural mosaic' are worse than fools; they're Canadians."

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Two centuries ago, a former European colony decided to catch up with Europe.
It succeeded so well that the United States of America became a monster,
in which the taints, the sickness and the inhumanity of Europe
have grown to appalling dimensions.

― Frantz Fanon
What the United States does best is understand itself.
What it does worst is understand others.

- Carlos Fuentes
Poor Mexico, so far from God
and so close to the United States.

- Porfirio Diaz
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"Indeed, everything about the American southland was magical
and exotic to the young Canadian musicians, from the sights
and smells to the drawling manner of speech to, especially, the
central role that music played in people’s everyday lives."

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America is a mistake, a giant mistake.
- Sigmund Freud
America is an adorable woman chewing tobacco.
- Auguste Bartholdi
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"This is the tone of the China Century, a subtle
mix of Nazi/Soviet bravado and 'oriental'
cunning -- easily misunderstood, and
never
heard before, in a real enemy, by the West."

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"And for the others who argued for English-only
patriotism, I note that there are more than
57 million Americans (about 20% of the nation)
whose first-language is not English...."

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"This is the behavior, and the fate, of paranoid
old-world tyrants like Hitler or Saddam, not liberal new-world democracies like America pretends to be."

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America is the only nation in history which
miraculously has gone directly from barbarism to
degeneration without the usual interval of civilization.

- Georges Clemenceau
I found there a country with thirty-two religions and only one sauce.
- Charles–Maurice Talleyrand
A people who are still, as it were, but in the gristle,
and not yet hardened into the bone of manhood.

- Edmund Burke
America is the only country ever founded on the printed word.
- Marshall McLuhan
"The removal of racist sports nicknames (and mascots) seems outrageously belated
-- why, exactly, has this civil rights cause
taken so long to gain momentum?"

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The atom bomb is a paper tiger which the
United States reactionaries use to scare people.
It looks terrible, but in fact it isn't.

- Mao Tse-tung
They made us many promises, more than I can remember, but
they kept only one; they promised to take our land, and they did.

- Red Cloud
In America sex is an obsession,
in other parts of the world it is a fact.

- Marlene Dietrich
I would rather have a nod from an American,
than a snuff-box from an emperor.

- Lord Byron
One day the United States discovered it was an empire.
But it didn’t know what an empire was.
It thought that an empire was merely the biggest of all corporations.

- Roberto Calasso
Americans are so enamored of equality, they would rather
be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

- Alexis de Tocqueville
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"No one, I thought, could watch those scenes, of young children slaughtered en masse, and so many parents grieving, without thinking that this, finally, would tip some kind of balance in the country."
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If you are prepared to accept the consequences of your dreams
then you must still regard America today with the same naive
enthusiasm as the generations that discovered the New World.

- Jean Baudrillard
I am willing to love all mankind, except an American.
- Samuel Johnson
America, thou half brother of the world;
With something good and bad of every land.

- Philip Bailey
"What can be more powerful than disinformation in the Information Age?"
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England and America are two countries separated by the same language.
- Sir Walter Besant
Christopher Columbus, as everyone knows, is honored by
posterity because he was the last to discover America.

- James Joyce
Now, from America, empty indifferent things
are pouring across, sham things, dummy life.

- Rainer Maria Rilke
If the United States is to recover fortitude and lucidity,
it must recover itself, and to recover itself it must
recover the "others"- the outcasts of the Western world.
- Octavio Paz
The youth of America is their oldest tradition.
It has been going on now for three hundred years.

- Oscar Wilde
"America really is, for most Americans, all things considered, a good place to be, and all they really want is for everyone to enjoy the same privilege and pleasure."
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When good Americans die they go to Paris;
when bad Americans die they go to America.

- Oscar Wilde
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America is therefore the land of the future, where, in the ages that
lie before us, the burden of the World's History shall reveal itself.

- Georg Friedrich Hegel
America is a large, friendly dog in a very small room.
Every time it wags its tail, it knocks over a chair.

- Arnold Toynbee
Americans always try to do the right thing after they've tried everything else.
- Winston Churchill
The thing that impresses me most about Americans
is the way parents obey their children.

- Edward, Duke of Windsor
Americans are apt to be unduly interested in discovering
what average opinion believes average opinion to be.

- John Maynard Keynes
Europe was created by history.
America was created by philosophy.

- Margaret Thatcher
America is God's crucible, the great Melting-Pot where all the races of
Europe are melting and reforming!... The real American has not yet arrived.
He is only in the crucible, I tell you - he will be the fusion of all races.

- Israel Zangwill
American dreams are strongest in the hearts of those
who have seen America only in their dreams.

- Pico Iyer
America: It's like Britain, only with buttons.
- Ringo Starr
The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer.
It has never yet melted.

― D.H. Lawrence
I have two conflicting visions of America.
One is a kind of dream landscape and the other is a kind of black comedy.

― Bono
The American mirror, said the voice, the sad American mirror
of wealth and poverty and constant useless metamorphosis,
the mirror that sails and whose sails are pain.

― Roberto Bolaño

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OliBedard
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Far From Heaven: race and queerness
on: December 5, 2015, 23:46

Tonight I finally had the chance to see Far From Heaven (2002), directed by Todd Haynes. It stars Julianne Moore as Cathy Whitaker, an upper middle class mother living in suburban Connecticut in the 1950s who realizes her husband is queer while she simultaneously finds herself falling in love with Raymond, the black owner of a garden supply shop in town who has taken over his late father's business affairs, including maintaining the Whitakers' garden. Todd Haynes is a filmmaker who is known for telling stories about complicated identities. His 1995 film, Safe, also starred Julianne Moore in her breakthrough role, playing a woman in San Fernando Valley who suffers from Multiple Chemical Sensitivity, or "Twentieth-Century Disease," and eventually isolates herself from her friends, family, and the entire world while experiencing AIDS-like bodily degradation and resorting to the spurious self-help pseudo-philosophies that boomed in the 90s (and continue to thrive today—think of The Secret). In Far From Heaven, Todd Haynes weaves concerns of sexuality, race, and class within the framework of a period melodrama in the stylistic tradition of Douglas Sirk. The film represents queerness, particularly, with interesting complications, demonstrating how in some contexts heterosexual relationships are also non-normative. Due to the overt prejudices common in the '50s against interracial relationships, Cathy and Raymond's relationship takes on a queerness that mirrors that of her husband's secretive encounters with other men. What's interesting about the film's treatment of social issues is that its main characters are unsettled in their differing roles. Cathy is not portrayed as some kind of white hero for being perceived as "a friend of the negro" (as is written about her in the society pages of a local paper after she is witnessed treating Raymond respectfully). Indeed, in one scene she makes racialized class assumptions when she is overly surprised at Raymond's familiarity with modernist paintings, and then awkwardly takes pains to stress that she is not "prejudiced" and that she supports the NAACP. And yet in other scenes she is genuinely disgusted by racism in the town, even while she fails to question her own complicity with it. This kind of character incongruity reflects uniquely American social structures examined through a modernist lens of fracture and instability: how do characters perceive themselves and how do they act from their multiple positions in a changing social world?



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Re: Far From Heaven: race and queerness
on: December 6, 2015, 00:00

This incongruous behaviour can easily be applied to Fitzgerald's Nick Caraway in The Great Gatsby. His alternating treatment of Gatsby, his admittance to telling the truth and his treatment towards women (particularly Jordan) all can be attributed to such behaviour. It is also interesting that Nick has inherent instability if you relate his distant relationship with his father and his underlying desire for a male role model to pull him out of his lost, lonely mentality



OliBedard
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Re: Far From Heaven: race and queerness
on: December 7, 2015, 15:19

And of course there are also Nick's inconsistent attitudes towards black folks in the novel. How he seems to belittle Tom's retrograde racist attitudes, yet describes the "modish" black folks driving the car in a way that is reminiscent of minstrel stereotypes, and seems condescending toward their "absurd" social climb despite his adulation of all things Gatsby, who is white or (as is discussed in another comment thread here) at least white passing.



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Re: Far From Heaven: race and queerness
on: February 12, 2016, 13:02

There has been much debate of the degree of racism within this book. Initially I had not viewed it to be very prejudicial as it was Tom Buchanan who was being racist. Because of his status within the novel-a fool who is past is prime-it would be appropriate for him to have such wayward opinions.

When I read this scene you mentioned, particularly the laugh, it definitely had me questions the racial foreground within this novel. Nick's laugh and comment that "anything can happen now" is so horrendous that I would not think such content would be published in mainstream literature today. This is because of the position Nick has in the novel. As the narrator, he presents his perspective of the Gatsby story. Of course he is to have his flaws and inconsistencies, but as the narrator, their is the assumed relationship that the reader is intended to have some empathy or consideration for the narrator's viewpoint. This is certainly the case when Nick portrays everyone else as stuck up and inconsiderate of Gatsby. Although deeper analysis will illustrate Nick's highly skewed perception, the reader is still inclined to at least acknowledge that Nick is not like the people of East Egg-he and Gatsby (in accordance to his portrayal) deserve that 'exceptional' status. As the novel progresses, one can identify Gatsby to have severe flaws of his own-which intends for the reader to put Nick on his own pedicel. As mentioned, this perception is contested with depicting the inconsistencies and ultimate bias with Nick's narrative.

It is one thing to have Nick tell a biased story. It can be Fitzgerald's attempt to illustrate the flawed makeup of everyone-even great individuals like Gatsby (and apparently Nick). But this scene mentioned goes far beyond having a biased perspective. It elevates Nick to someone who is extremely pretentious and self-absorbed. There is no doubt that he is-a cumulative analysis of Nick will prove that he does have an elitist demeanor, but tries to portray the 'aside victim' of East Egg natural vindictiveness. But then who are we supposed to empathize for? The foolish Tom? The superficial Jordan? The manipulative Daisy? The criminal Gatsby? Maybe it can be the murderer, George Wilson, since he was a victim for majority of the novel. Maybe there is no one to root/empathize for in this novel, and one of Nick's detrimental flaws is his racism. Ironically enough, maybe the whole idea of greatness is convoluted and tainted as each of these characters (with the exception of George Wilson), do view themselves to be of a 'great' status in particular sections of the novel. Wouldn't that be a ironic if Fitzgerald was painting that picture all along...



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Re: Far From Heaven: race and queerness
on: February 27, 2017, 12:47

I think that what sums up the movie best is Cathy’s quote, “It feels like there’s no one left in the world that I could talk to.” This really reflects the estrangement that she felt. The social structure was so rigid and racism so profoundly embedded in the society that the only thing that she was left with was pretence.

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