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Trump: They don`t look like Indians to me
on: January 14, 2017, 14:27

from Indian Country Media Network

Donald Trump and Federal Indian Policy: ‘They Don’t Look Like Indians to Me’
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Bryan Newland • July 28, 2016
...
In 1993, Donald Trump appeared before the United States House of Representatives Committee on Natural Resources to offer testimony on Indian gaming. 1993 Donald Trump bears a striking resemblance to Presidential Candidate Donald Trump, in terms of demeanor and language – Trump’s oral testimony is consistent with the language he has used throughout his campaign for President.
Most of Trump’s testimony focused on Indian gaming itself, and his perception that the Indian Gaming Regulatory Act granted tribes an unfair advantage over his own gaming enterprises.
But, it was another part of Trump’s testimony that caught my attention. He questioned the legitimacy of Indian tribes based upon the physical appearance of their members. Here is an exchange he had with Rep. Miller of California:
Mr. Miller. Is this you discussing Indian blood: “We are going to judge people by whether they have Indian blood,” whether they are qualified to run a gaming casino or not?
Mr. Trump. That probably is me, absolutely, because I’ll tell you what, if you look—if you look at some of the reservations that you have approved—you, sir, in your great wisdom, have approved— will tell you right now, they don’t look like Indians to me, and they don’t look like Indians. Now maybe we say politically correct or not politically correct. They don’t look like Indians to me, and they don’t look like Indians to Indians, and a lot of people are laughing at it, and you are telling how tough it is, how rough it is, to get approved. Well, you go up to Connecticut, and you look. Now, they don’t look like Indians to me, sir. [...]

https://indiancountrymedianetwork.com/news/politics/donald-trump-and-federal-indian-policy-they-dont-look-like-indians-to-me/



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Re: Trump: They don`t look like Indians to me
on: January 21, 2017, 13:48

When reading this news article about Trump I am reminded of many texts I have read throughout my University career to name two: A Seat in the Garden by Thomas King and The School Days of An Indian Girl by Zikala-Sa. While A Seat in the Garden speaks directly to Trump “they don’t look like Indians to me, and they don’t look like Indians to Indians”. Trump is referring to the stereotype that Native American’s are to look a certain way in order to be considered an Indian (meaning long braided hair, moccasins/handmade clothing, and drink a lot). Within King’s work he mentions the way that white people (Joe and Red) think of Native Americans and the truth about how they are. Joe and Red realize that all of their stereotypes were wrong about them, that they are not drunks and that they are dressed like white people. In Zikala-Sa’s work she talks about Native American children being taken away to go to residential schooling, where they have their hair cut off and they are forced to give up their heritage in the process they are forced to also wear white clothing. Now if Trump was to see these children in the school would he consider them to not be Native Americans too because “they do not look like Indians”? Trump is stating in front of a lot of people that he still refers to Indians by this stereotype. These texts are being made in order to show people like Trump that it is time to start thinking about Native American’s differently and it is time to give up the stereotyping.



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Re: Trump: They don`t look like Indians to me
on: January 26, 2017, 14:16

I agree with Lindsey’s post with her discussion on Trump’s belief that Indians are only Indians if they meet the preconceived stereotype of how they look and act that he has in his head. As we learned from The School Days of An Indian Girl by Zikala-Sa, and from what I already knew, residential schools were created to take the Native American children and change their Indigenous beliefs to Christianity and make them act and look like the white, westernized world. Native American’s were forced to forget their culture and to adapt a Western lifestyle, but that does not change the fact that they are still Indigenous people. Trump’s argument is truly ridiculous, and just because someone adapts to the world around them and changes the language they speak or the way they dress, that does not change who they were born to be. It is the same as arguing that since my Great-Grandparents moved from Poland to Canada, started adapting to life here and speaking English, they are no longer Polish..and no one would ever say that. Trump’s ignorance just emphasizes the stereotypes that still exist on Native Americans today, just because they “Don’t look like Indians,” does not mean they are not Indians; you can adapt different cultures without losing your own.



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Re: Trump: They don`t look like Indians to me
on: January 31, 2017, 12:51

I agree with what has been said by my classmates. Much like Kayla stated, it is important to recognize that although Indigenous people were stripped of their identity and forced to modify their culture, traditions, and beliefs in order to conform to a Western lifestyle, where they come from and who they are does not change. For Trump to say “They don’t look like Indians to me” feeds into the stereotypes of what it looks like to be an indigenous male/female. I think it is important to recall the discussion we had which mentioned Native Americans have the right the change and be fluid, just like anybody else. White culture modernizes and so should Native Americans. For example, much fashion and appearance has changed within white culture, it is inevitable that additional cultures, apart from those who are white, will change their appearance as well. However, it becomes clear that Trump fails to recognize this. Failing to recognize that Native Americans also have the right to modernize results in this ignorant statement of “They don’t look like Indians to me” because it repents a fix mindset of seeing an Indian as someone who has long dark hair, possibly with a feather in it, while holding a bow and arrow.



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Re: Trump: They don`t look like Indians to me
on: January 31, 2017, 19:06

I also agree with my fellow classmates. Trump's statement saying that "They did not look like Indians" is a prime example of the crisis that our modern day society is dealing with. Just because someone does not look a certain way does not mean they are not that race or culture. In media culture Native Indians are portrayed as having red skin, having long black hair, and usually being drunk; these stereotypes are based on cultural biases that mainstream media feeds into peoples minds. Personally Trump's statement (while ignorant) does not surprise me because people are not educated when it comes to the Native culture and I personally know people that believe such stereotypes are correct. I was recently reading an article in which a Native women was upset because a Halloween store was brought into the spot light due to a child's costume of an Indian. The "costumizing" of the Indian is cultural appropriation because this cultural and sacred aspect of the Indian culture was being sold as if it were nothing more than a costume. This example of cultural appropriation emphasizes how people like Trump believe that Indianess is solely based on appearance. Being Indian does not mean that you have feathers in your hair in your hair, or have a bottle in your hand but is rather based on the experiences that one has overcome. Trump's inability to understand the Indian culture and heritage demonstrates the problem that is present with people's perceptions on cultures and teaches us that in order to understand a culture, one must research and discuss such issues with those who are willing to listen.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatoon/indigenous-costume-spirit-halloween-stereotypes-offensive-1.3801830



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Re: Trump: They don`t look like Indians to me
on: February 3, 2017, 10:09

Like my classmates I was also able to draw connections between the Trump article and the readings that we have done in class this semester, particularly those discussing themes of loss of identity and the displacement of Indigenous peoples. I find it awful, yet not surprising, that Trump, a wealthy, white, American man, finds himself qualified to determine what does and does not make one Indian, especially when his basis for doing so is one based on stereotypes that are often racialized. I feel like this attitude that he hold is reflected and represented in the readings, particularly, as has been mentioned by classmates, Zikala-Sa's The School Days of an Indian Girl, in which we witness the horribleness and oppressiveness of culture that were the result of residential schools and the attempts at destroying a peoples culture by stripping the Indian children of their native identity and trying to make them assimilate to white culture. I think that often when looking back at our not so distant history there are too many cases, such as the one depicted by Zikala-Sa, of white people of European origin forcing their culture on other non-white "less civilized" people for reasons of their own gain, while hiding under this mask of attempted assistance, and the people leading these endeavors are, like Trump, privileged white men. Ultimately, I think it is important to remember that, as the readings suggest, a lot of suffering results from these kinds of attitudes, and identity is not something that is always represented by appearance, but in deeper ways that are less visible for those who are unwilling to take the time to look.



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Re: Trump: They don`t look like Indians to me
on: March 8, 2017, 20:31

The image one most often thinks of when thinking of Indians is that which Trump seems to have been referring to in his speech, an image of a warrior on horseback dressed in animal hide and feathers with a bow and arrow. That is not a real image. Native Americans today are just as advanced as anyone else, but we still have this vision stuck in our heads that has been enforced by the media and Hollywood. Thomas King talks about this fact in Green Grass Running Water. The fact of the outdated portrayal of Native sis brought forth in a conversation between the characters of Eli a Native and Clifford Sifton who accuses Eli of not being a “real Indian” as he drives a car and watches TV affirming the outdated and stereotyped image of Indians that is brought forth in King’s story of Portland a Native actor who is made to wear a fake nose as he himself doesn’t look Indian enough. King illustrates this issue in an absurd yet believable way. The image of an Indian in most people’s minds is a Hollywood constructed stereotype that would lead many people to like Trump say that modern Indian’s “don’t look like Indians to me.”



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Re: Trump: They don`t look like Indians to me
on: March 30, 2017, 20:26

Like many others here, I think it's difficult to avoid comparing Trump's comment to Zitkala-Sa's work, because it's very relevant. Her tale 'School Days of an Indian Girl' shows just how much people want to convert traditional Native Americans into Western Europeans. This happens - and Zitkala-Sa portrayed this very effectively in her story - by removing their traditional clothing, removing their traditional hairstyles, and making them fit in with us because we're so used to forcing our culture onto others to the point where we don't even realize we are doing it any more. Trump here is simply pointing out that some Indians don't look like Indians any more because we made it so that it was easier to hide their identity among white people than it was to be themselves. Trump's comment poses another issue - he waters down the idea of Native American or Indian to only include appearance. In a country as multicultural as America, it would be expected that the common ideology is that many people come from many different backgrounds, and their whole history may be hidden if all you are judging is some facets of their appearance. I myself have experienced this in real life, I come from a family that is Asian, but because I don't have thin eyes or black hair, people always tell me "You can't really be Asian" which is simply ridiculous and looking at heritage from a very physical point of view.



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Re: Trump: They don`t look like Indians to me
on: April 4, 2017, 21:01

I think this discussion between Trump and Miller emphasizes the stereotypical image of the "Indian" and the perception that they should look and act a certain way in order to be considered "authentic". The problem with these interpretations is that the physical image of a person should never define their identity. A Native person does not have to fit the stereotypical portrayal of "Indians" as showcased in the old Western movies or even as shown in the Disney film, Pocahontas. These portrayals are unwelcome by the Native communities and are seen as a disrespect to their culture and identity. I think this is also clear in Gerald Vizenor's novel Chair of Tears, where he addresses the issues with trying to create a physical image of what a Native should look like. Many of the Native people of the novel are eager to participate in the "Skin Dunk" to make themselves appear darker in tone. The fact that these people feel the need to alter their appearance in order to gain a higher level of respect from the community really addresses the issues with creating a physical stigma against Native people. Trump has a clouded mind-frame on what is physically acceptable for a person to consider themselves Native. His role as a leader needs to be taken more seriously. He has a strong influence on the public and has frequently misused and abused his position while reverting back to racist comments that many leaders before him have worked extensively to absolve.



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Re: Trump: They don`t look like Indians to me
on: April 4, 2017, 22:04

The article in this discussion displays Trump's response to Indian gaming. He exhibits the hegemonic stereotypical image of the 'Indian'. This stereotype often affects the lives of Native Americans living in American-European societies. Thomas King's Green Grass, Running Water, narrates the lives of contemporary Indigenous adults straddling the line between the dominant western culture, the knowledge of colonization, but having their lives be a part of the society and system that they were assimilated into. Alberta is a professor who earns her living teaching at 'white' universities, but also is faced with the knowledge of colonization everyday. However, Thomas King juxtaposes the characterizations of contemporary Indigenous peoples' fluctuating identity, to stereotypes using the four Indians who tell stories. These four Indians have names from famous characters in the American-European tradition, but exhibit typical Indian traits. Throughout the entire novel, Dr. Johovaugh depicts them as criminals based on how they look. Moreover, Eli's experience coming back to his home community shows how Indigenous people who have stepped away from the traditional, cultural identity, struggle with feelings of guilt of moving out of the traditional identity or stereotypes.

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