American hedonism closes its eyes to death, and has been
incapable of exorcising the destructive power of the moment
with a wisdom like that of the Epicureans of antiquity.

- Octavio Paz
Death is un-American, and an affront to every citizen's inalienable
right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

- Arnold Toynbee
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"As long as such self-serving hypocrisy
motivates America's response, Ukraine will
only sink further into needless bloodshed,
and that blood will be on America's head."
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In America everybody is of the opinion that he has no social superiors,
since all men are equal, but he does not admit that he has no social inferiors,
for, from the time of Jefferson onward, the doctrine that all men are equal
applies only upwards, not downwards.

― Bertrand Russell
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"What those 'racists' are reflexively and rightly reacting
to is the soulless chill as the fire goes out beneath the
melting pot. Those who think America can thrive as a
'cultural mosaic' are worse than fools; they're Canadians."

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Two centuries ago, a former European colony decided to catch up with Europe.
It succeeded so well that the United States of America became a monster,
in which the taints, the sickness and the inhumanity of Europe
have grown to appalling dimensions.

― Frantz Fanon
What the United States does best is understand itself.
What it does worst is understand others.

- Carlos Fuentes
Poor Mexico, so far from God
and so close to the United States.

- Porfirio Diaz
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"Indeed, everything about the American southland was magical
and exotic to the young Canadian musicians, from the sights
and smells to the drawling manner of speech to, especially, the
central role that music played in people’s everyday lives."

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America is a mistake, a giant mistake.
- Sigmund Freud
America is an adorable woman chewing tobacco.
- Auguste Bartholdi
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"This is the tone of the China Century, a subtle
mix of Nazi/Soviet bravado and 'oriental'
cunning -- easily misunderstood, and
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heard before, in a real enemy, by the West."

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"And for the others who argued for English-only
patriotism, I note that there are more than
57 million Americans (about 20% of the nation)
whose first-language is not English...."

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"This is the behavior, and the fate, of paranoid
old-world tyrants like Hitler or Saddam, not liberal new-world democracies like America pretends to be."

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America is the only nation in history which
miraculously has gone directly from barbarism to
degeneration without the usual interval of civilization.

- Georges Clemenceau
I found there a country with thirty-two religions and only one sauce.
- Charles–Maurice Talleyrand
A people who are still, as it were, but in the gristle,
and not yet hardened into the bone of manhood.

- Edmund Burke
America is the only country ever founded on the printed word.
- Marshall McLuhan
"The removal of racist sports nicknames (and mascots) seems outrageously belated
-- why, exactly, has this civil rights cause
taken so long to gain momentum?"

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The atom bomb is a paper tiger which the
United States reactionaries use to scare people.
It looks terrible, but in fact it isn't.

- Mao Tse-tung
They made us many promises, more than I can remember, but
they kept only one; they promised to take our land, and they did.

- Red Cloud
In America sex is an obsession,
in other parts of the world it is a fact.

- Marlene Dietrich
I would rather have a nod from an American,
than a snuff-box from an emperor.

- Lord Byron
One day the United States discovered it was an empire.
But it didn’t know what an empire was.
It thought that an empire was merely the biggest of all corporations.

- Roberto Calasso
Americans are so enamored of equality, they would rather
be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

- Alexis de Tocqueville
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"No one, I thought, could watch those scenes, of young children slaughtered en masse, and so many parents grieving, without thinking that this, finally, would tip some kind of balance in the country."
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If you are prepared to accept the consequences of your dreams
then you must still regard America today with the same naive
enthusiasm as the generations that discovered the New World.

- Jean Baudrillard
I am willing to love all mankind, except an American.
- Samuel Johnson
America, thou half brother of the world;
With something good and bad of every land.

- Philip Bailey
"What can be more powerful than disinformation in the Information Age?"
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England and America are two countries separated by the same language.
- Sir Walter Besant
Christopher Columbus, as everyone knows, is honored by
posterity because he was the last to discover America.

- James Joyce
Now, from America, empty indifferent things
are pouring across, sham things, dummy life.

- Rainer Maria Rilke
If the United States is to recover fortitude and lucidity,
it must recover itself, and to recover itself it must
recover the "others"- the outcasts of the Western world.
- Octavio Paz
The youth of America is their oldest tradition.
It has been going on now for three hundred years.

- Oscar Wilde
"America really is, for most Americans, all things considered, a good place to be, and all they really want is for everyone to enjoy the same privilege and pleasure."
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America is therefore the land of the future, where, in the ages that
lie before us, the burden of the World's History shall reveal itself.

- Georg Friedrich Hegel
America is a large, friendly dog in a very small room.
Every time it wags its tail, it knocks over a chair.

- Arnold Toynbee
Americans always try to do the right thing after they've tried everything else.
- Winston Churchill
The thing that impresses me most about Americans
is the way parents obey their children.

- Edward, Duke of Windsor
Americans are apt to be unduly interested in discovering
what average opinion believes average opinion to be.

- John Maynard Keynes
Europe was created by history.
America was created by philosophy.

- Margaret Thatcher
America is God's crucible, the great Melting-Pot where all the races of
Europe are melting and reforming!... The real American has not yet arrived.
He is only in the crucible, I tell you - he will be the fusion of all races.

- Israel Zangwill
American dreams are strongest in the hearts of those
who have seen America only in their dreams.

- Pico Iyer
America: It's like Britain, only with buttons.
- Ringo Starr
The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer.
It has never yet melted.

― D.H. Lawrence
I have two conflicting visions of America.
One is a kind of dream landscape and the other is a kind of black comedy.

― Bono
The American mirror, said the voice, the sad American mirror
of wealth and poverty and constant useless metamorphosis,
the mirror that sails and whose sails are pain.

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Geoff-
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Geoff Hamilton
"Donald Trump is still calling Elizabeth Warren ‘Pocahontas’"
on: February 10, 2017, 21:38

from http://www.bostonglobe.com

Donald Trump is still calling Elizabeth Warren ‘Pocahontas’
By Danny McDonald GLOBE STAFF FEBRUARY 11, 2017
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President Trump apparently hasn’t tired of calling Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren “Pocahontas.”
It’s a jab meant to reference Warren’s claimed Cherokee lineage, something that has not been proven.
According to Politico, Trump referred to Warren as “Pocahontas” several times during a Thursday lunch with some senators, at which Warren’s recent objection to the confirmation of Attorney General Jeff Sessions was discussed. During that confirmation debate this week, Warren was silenced after being found in violation of Senate rules for reading a letter by Coretta Scott King that said Sessions had used the “power of his office to chill the free exercise of the vote by black citizens.” [...]
https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2017/02/10/donald-trump-still-calling-elizabeth-warren-pocahontas/pvc1QAHhOPdID3MvxzthcL/story.html



Tess-
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Tess Goulding
Re: "Donald Trump is still calling Elizabeth Warren ‘Pocahontas’"
on: February 20, 2017, 19:36

Once again, this is a case where Trump uses his ignorance to objectify and slam Senator Elizabeth Warren. His objectification of calling her Pocahontas (when it is not really known whether she has Native American ties) is insulting as he is clearly judging her based on her appearance. By Trump calling her Pocahontas it not only digs up so much oppression and negativity for the native community but he is simply being a racist. His racist remarks towards Senator Warren and countless other people he has threatened shows the awful mistake America has made to make him president. His inability to let go of grudges and let go of his racist and sexist persona is exactly what nobody needs right now. Trump is just digging himself deeper into his disregard for minority groups in America which will only backfire on him in the future.

I also want to touch on the fact that as Elizabeth is a woman, so not only is Trump making a racist remark to her (on countless occasions) but he shows no respect or peace in his disagreement with Senator Elizabeth. By calling her out as "Pocahontas" he is attacking so much more then Native Americans, but all minority groups and people such as the LGBTQ community that has broken significant barriers these past few years. Trumps verbal abuse towards Elizabeth shows that as he does not see his racist comments he will not hesitate to further condemn other people who do not fit his 'ideal American.'



kaylatripp
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Kayla T
Re: "Donald Trump is still calling Elizabeth Warren ‘Pocahontas’"
on: February 22, 2017, 14:08

I completely agree with Tess, Donald Trump’s actions are completely ignorant. For any person, it is extremely insensitive and racist to refer to a Native American person as “Pocahontas” as that stereotypes and categorizes them into one single category. But these words are coming from the President of the United States, someone who is supposed to set an example and focus on the lives of all American people, yet once again he is excluding all those who are not White, Middle-Class or men. This is another example of his immaturity and constant jab against anyone who disagrees with his beliefs; it is so frustrating to know that someone who is so incompetent and cruel has been elected the President of the United States. This is a reason why the turmoil between the Indigenous communities and the American population cannot be moved on from, they are still being oppressed. Considering the President is one of the oppressors, it makes American citizens think that these racist actions are acceptable.



Sarah Tax
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trentstudent24
Re: "Donald Trump is still calling Elizabeth Warren ‘Pocahontas’"
on: March 10, 2017, 19:31

I agree with both the above posts and their stance that Trumps statements are ignorant and that he sets a bad example for the people he is supposed to be leading by continuing to make comments with racist connotations.
This article and this problem of Trump calling a woman Pocahontas (along with many of the other attitudes he has displayed to us since the beginning of his campaign and continued on into his presidency) reminds me of another article that I have read for another class on the topic of cultural ignorance, a growing problem within our current society, a problem only worsened by Trumps attitudes. When a person in a position of power openly discriminates against not one but many minority groups (the current travel ban a further example of this) it should send up a red flag as such attitudes are a determent to our society.
I agree with the other posts that state that trumps attitude towards Elizabeth Warren and his calling her Pocahontas is him trying to take a jab at her because she does not agree with him and has been very vocal about her dislike of him and what he stands for. As she stated in part of a larger Facebook post "Donald Trump stands ready to tear apart an America that was built on values like decency, community and concern for our neighbors", which seems harsh but also a fairly accurate prediction of what a trump presidency looks like. Ultimately, Trump as president of the U.S should be encouraging equality and diversity and acceptance rather then taking shots at fellow politicians and participating in bringing on this larger problem of cultural ignorance that plagues society.



Mike-
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Mike Langston
Re: "Donald Trump is still calling Elizabeth Warren ‘Pocahontas’"
on: January 20, 2018, 15:15

Check out this recent article in the Boston Globe...
https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2018/01/19/elizabeth-warren-native-american-problem-goes-beyond-politics/uK9pGOl4JBmqmRUcxTNj3H/story.html

To be clear: Trump's use of "Pocahontas" is offensive and unacceptable. If he had any decency he would stop.
But Warren, as the article's author points out, is not clear of blame when it comes to the issue of her relationship to Native Americans. She has not been particularly forthcoming about the "mixup" in claims about her identity, and not many Native Americans would say that she has been a great advocate for their rights. If Warren does run in 2020, I'd like to see the media focus not on the insults launched by Trump, but on what is going to be done to help strengthen the sovereignty of America's Indians in the coming years. We need more real advocates, not empty promises. As Chad Smith says in the article: “The mark of value in claiming heritage is: Do you use your position to give back? ...If it is a claim that is valuable to her, she should be helping Indian country. She might be doing it with the overall agenda. But unless she’s contributing back, it is a somewhat hollow claim.”"



ip
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IP
Re: "Donald Trump is still calling Elizabeth Warren ‘Pocahontas’"
on: January 29, 2018, 23:52

Trump is exactly what the people of America want him to be. They voted for a person who has no filter, is upright and does not think before he speaks. Without thinking of the implications, he called Elizabeth Warren "Pocahontas," not to insult Native Americans but to call her out on her claims. Of course, his statement is meant to ridicule her, but it is done very strategically. Elizabeth Warren is allowed to insult him and mock him. They have every right to throw insults around as many politicians have done to bring down their opponents. There is no excuse for Trump's ignorance, but in this case I don't believe he was being malicious towards any certain race. I imagine he thought calling her Pocahontas would be funny and a great way to publicly shock everyone. It was a tactic to bring attention to her questionable claims of being Indian and it definitely worked; many Americans and even her supporters want proof. It's quite unnerving to know that she could have used her supposed Native American heritage to get a leg up in hercareer. Hence, it is more insulting to claim to be something that you are not for additional benefits and supporters than to mindlessly call someone "Pocahontas." Actions speak louder than words. From a historical point of view, it is interesting to see the shifting perspective of Native Americans. It reminds me of an essay “An Indian’s Looking-Glass For the White Man” written in 1833 by William Apess. It recounts the experience of a Native American man and the struggles of living with such a bad reputation. It seems we’ve come a long way since at one point in time they were called people “who had no principle” and now we have senators who want to be them, that is if Senator Warren’s statements are false. There still is, of course, discrimination towards Natives but the majority of people and government consistently try to honor them



tajoda
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tajoda
Re: "Donald Trump is still calling Elizabeth Warren ‘Pocahontas’"
on: January 30, 2018, 06:41

I agree with the above statements as well. Trump calling her "Pocahontas" extremely offensive. Although, it is also concerning that she just "claims" that it is her heritage, because of using it to get ahead of her career, as said in the above post, as well. Both are troublesome in their own ways. Trump is just intentionally being racist and rude and even if it is meant as a joke, it's very offensive and insensitive, which isn't very surprising coming from him, considering all the other horrible things he's said before. Then on the the other hand, Warren claims that Cherokee is part of her descent even though it's not actually proven. If she is using it to gain publicity, that is a problem in its own because she is clinging onto the struggles of generations of people to make herself look more sympathetic to their situation because she's apparently one of them. That idea in its own goes against all of the struggles the Native Americans have gone through, and are still going through. Unless her Cherokee heritage is proven, she is also wrong in her own right by claiming that she is part of them, as well.

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