American hedonism closes its eyes to death, and has been
incapable of exorcising the destructive power of the moment
with a wisdom like that of the Epicureans of antiquity.

- Octavio Paz
Death is un-American, and an affront to every citizen's inalienable
right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

- Arnold Toynbee
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"As long as such self-serving hypocrisy
motivates America's response, Ukraine will
only sink further into needless bloodshed,
and that blood will be on America's head."
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In America everybody is of the opinion that he has no social superiors,
since all men are equal, but he does not admit that he has no social inferiors,
for, from the time of Jefferson onward, the doctrine that all men are equal
applies only upwards, not downwards.

― Bertrand Russell
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"What those 'racists' are reflexively and rightly reacting
to is the soulless chill as the fire goes out beneath the
melting pot. Those who think America can thrive as a
'cultural mosaic' are worse than fools; they're Canadians."

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Two centuries ago, a former European colony decided to catch up with Europe.
It succeeded so well that the United States of America became a monster,
in which the taints, the sickness and the inhumanity of Europe
have grown to appalling dimensions.

― Frantz Fanon
What the United States does best is understand itself.
What it does worst is understand others.

- Carlos Fuentes
Poor Mexico, so far from God
and so close to the United States.

- Porfirio Diaz
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"Indeed, everything about the American southland was magical
and exotic to the young Canadian musicians, from the sights
and smells to the drawling manner of speech to, especially, the
central role that music played in people’s everyday lives."

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America is a mistake, a giant mistake.
- Sigmund Freud
America is an adorable woman chewing tobacco.
- Auguste Bartholdi
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"This is the tone of the China Century, a subtle
mix of Nazi/Soviet bravado and 'oriental'
cunning -- easily misunderstood, and
never
heard before, in a real enemy, by the West."

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"And for the others who argued for English-only
patriotism, I note that there are more than
57 million Americans (about 20% of the nation)
whose first-language is not English...."

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"This is the behavior, and the fate, of paranoid
old-world tyrants like Hitler or Saddam, not liberal new-world democracies like America pretends to be."

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America is the only nation in history which
miraculously has gone directly from barbarism to
degeneration without the usual interval of civilization.

- Georges Clemenceau
I found there a country with thirty-two religions and only one sauce.
- Charles–Maurice Talleyrand
A people who are still, as it were, but in the gristle,
and not yet hardened into the bone of manhood.

- Edmund Burke
America is the only country ever founded on the printed word.
- Marshall McLuhan
"The removal of racist sports nicknames (and mascots) seems outrageously belated
-- why, exactly, has this civil rights cause
taken so long to gain momentum?"

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The atom bomb is a paper tiger which the
United States reactionaries use to scare people.
It looks terrible, but in fact it isn't.

- Mao Tse-tung
They made us many promises, more than I can remember, but
they kept only one; they promised to take our land, and they did.

- Red Cloud
In America sex is an obsession,
in other parts of the world it is a fact.

- Marlene Dietrich
I would rather have a nod from an American,
than a snuff-box from an emperor.

- Lord Byron
One day the United States discovered it was an empire.
But it didn’t know what an empire was.
It thought that an empire was merely the biggest of all corporations.

- Roberto Calasso
Americans are so enamored of equality, they would rather
be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

- Alexis de Tocqueville
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"No one, I thought, could watch those scenes, of young children slaughtered en masse, and so many parents grieving, without thinking that this, finally, would tip some kind of balance in the country."
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If you are prepared to accept the consequences of your dreams
then you must still regard America today with the same naive
enthusiasm as the generations that discovered the New World.

- Jean Baudrillard
I am willing to love all mankind, except an American.
- Samuel Johnson
America, thou half brother of the world;
With something good and bad of every land.

- Philip Bailey
"What can be more powerful than disinformation in the Information Age?"
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England and America are two countries separated by the same language.
- Sir Walter Besant
Christopher Columbus, as everyone knows, is honored by
posterity because he was the last to discover America.

- James Joyce
Now, from America, empty indifferent things
are pouring across, sham things, dummy life.

- Rainer Maria Rilke
If the United States is to recover fortitude and lucidity,
it must recover itself, and to recover itself it must
recover the "others"- the outcasts of the Western world.
- Octavio Paz
The youth of America is their oldest tradition.
It has been going on now for three hundred years.

- Oscar Wilde
"America really is, for most Americans, all things considered, a good place to be, and all they really want is for everyone to enjoy the same privilege and pleasure."
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when bad Americans die they go to America.

- Oscar Wilde
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America is therefore the land of the future, where, in the ages that
lie before us, the burden of the World's History shall reveal itself.

- Georg Friedrich Hegel
America is a large, friendly dog in a very small room.
Every time it wags its tail, it knocks over a chair.

- Arnold Toynbee
Americans always try to do the right thing after they've tried everything else.
- Winston Churchill
The thing that impresses me most about Americans
is the way parents obey their children.

- Edward, Duke of Windsor
Americans are apt to be unduly interested in discovering
what average opinion believes average opinion to be.

- John Maynard Keynes
Europe was created by history.
America was created by philosophy.

- Margaret Thatcher
America is God's crucible, the great Melting-Pot where all the races of
Europe are melting and reforming!... The real American has not yet arrived.
He is only in the crucible, I tell you - he will be the fusion of all races.

- Israel Zangwill
American dreams are strongest in the hearts of those
who have seen America only in their dreams.

- Pico Iyer
America: It's like Britain, only with buttons.
- Ringo Starr
The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer.
It has never yet melted.

― D.H. Lawrence
I have two conflicting visions of America.
One is a kind of dream landscape and the other is a kind of black comedy.

― Bono
The American mirror, said the voice, the sad American mirror
of wealth and poverty and constant useless metamorphosis,
the mirror that sails and whose sails are pain.

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A.C.-
Charles
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The Fascination Behind American Literature
on: March 29, 2016, 23:37

While organizing my book collection, I had noticed that my selection is predominately British and American literature over Canadian literature. The British cannon was easy for me to legitimize because many of the courses I have taken in university centralize around British authors. What I found astonishing was the disproportionate ratio of American lit novels to Canadian lit novels (70-30 approx.). This unbalance is not a result of me taking more American based courses than Canadian courses. Rather, I unconsciously have purchased a vastly greater quantity of American lit books (unconsciously as I rarely look up an author's bio before purchasing a book).

The question I pose is why-what has inclined me to choose American literature over Canadian literature. There is a logical possibility that since U.S. has nearly 100 years more history and nearly 10x the population of Canada, there is much greater opportunity for U.S. to compile more notable works. However, I wonder if there is something more to it than that. Personally, I have heard that American literature is just more entertaining and action-oriented than Canadian literature since there have been more distinctive events in its history to derive from. However, this perspective is not entirely concrete. One of my favourirte books is by Canadian author, Rawi Hage, called "De Niro's Game". This book is filled with similar action, consequence and dilemmas which would normally entice a multitude of readers. Aside from personal preference, is there an 'it factor' which American texts exclusively possess (emphasized in greater light when compared to Canadian texts)?



Amanda-
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Re: The Fascination Behind American Literature
on: March 30, 2016, 21:57

I agree with the statement above by A.C. Charles. Continually, I believe there is a curiosity with the similarities and differences our neighbour to the South in comparison to us; therefore, a way to do so is through reading American literature (fiction or non-fiction). Moreover, the fascination with American literature is due to many of American authors' works have been made into screen adaptations in either films or television shows, and have been successful globally (http://www.goodreads.com/list/show/1814.American_Literature_at_the_Movies?page=1). With this being said, is the fascination or how easily we adopt American literature part of "Americanization"?

Side note: On my bookshelf I would say that majority of the books are written by American authors and have been made into a movie or television show.



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Re: The Fascination Behind American Literature
on: March 31, 2016, 12:32

I found this post intriguing in part because I am an American currently living in Canada. And while I consider myself a generally well-read individual, I can't say that I have read a single work by a Canadian author. Years ago I remember browsing through a Barnes & Noble (our version of Chapters) and noting Margaret Atwood's The Handmaid's Tale on the "Summer Reading" table, but this was long after I graduated from high school.

Within the States---at least at the high school level---there doesn't seem to be much interest in Canadian literature. I suspect this is the result of numerous factors, but initially two come to my mind: (1) a consciousness of the vastness of properly American literature and concern to expose students to that canon, and--to be quite blunt--(2) a general amnesia about our northern neighbor's existence.

To be clear, I am not defending this amnesia, but merely attempting to assess the reality of the situation of Canadian literature (in American high school classrooms).

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MoB
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Re: The Fascination Behind American Literature
on: April 1, 2016, 01:13

This thread reminded me of an article by Barbara Kay from last summer:

Barbara Kay: The bureaucrats killed CanLit

Kay argues that Canadian literature was "usurped" by the Canada Council, who gave funding and prizes to authors who were working to write self-consciously Canadian texts, leaving authors with less single-minded projects out in the cold. The Canadian authors Canadians read, Kay seems to think, are still working to produce distinctly Canadian texts by following an old formula. Up and coming writers with fresh ideas are still ignored by the mainstream.

I'm not sure if I agree with everything Kay says in her article, but I do think her analysis of the usurpation of CanLit on the cusp of its golden era is interesting in context of A.C. Charles's question about the "it" factor of American literature. Might it be that American literature has been historically more appealing--to Canadian and American readers alike--because it is less self-consciously contrived? I don't have the feeling that the works we think of as great, and distinctively American literature, are self-consciously trying to express American content. Instead maybe canonical American authors assert the expression of their own individuality as essentially American, and the content of that expression becomes American in the assertion.



nessrhia
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Re: The Fascination Behind American Literature
on: April 6, 2016, 10:38

This reminds me of Nick Mount’s dissertation/book, When Canadian Literature Moved to New York. I debated taking a first year course with him, so I wanted to read some of his work before choosing his course over another. In the book, he argues that Canadian Literature was actually born in New York. Canadian writing was developed as a profession not on the Canadian plains, Mount says, but social places like café’s in New York in the late nineteenth-century. The bulk of his book focuses on immigration—he argues that most of the successful, Canadian-born writers were expatriates, and most of them landed in New York. While expat’s like Ernest Seton and Bliss Carman were acknowledged in Canada for their writing, they also were the catalyst for Canada to identify a solid, identifiable model of the Canadian canon that was different from all other literatures. Seton and Carman generally wrote domestic novels, which contrasts with the nationalistic and regional themes that we identify as being stereotypically Canadian. Because of this, expatriate writers were eliminated because they did not fit the emerging mold of the Canadian literary canon.

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