American hedonism closes its eyes to death, and has been
incapable of exorcising the destructive power of the moment
with a wisdom like that of the Epicureans of antiquity.

- Octavio Paz
Death is un-American, and an affront to every citizen's inalienable
right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

- Arnold Toynbee
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"As long as such self-serving hypocrisy
motivates America's response, Ukraine will
only sink further into needless bloodshed,
and that blood will be on America's head."
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In America everybody is of the opinion that he has no social superiors,
since all men are equal, but he does not admit that he has no social inferiors,
for, from the time of Jefferson onward, the doctrine that all men are equal
applies only upwards, not downwards.

― Bertrand Russell
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"What those 'racists' are reflexively and rightly reacting
to is the soulless chill as the fire goes out beneath the
melting pot. Those who think America can thrive as a
'cultural mosaic' are worse than fools; they're Canadians."

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Two centuries ago, a former European colony decided to catch up with Europe.
It succeeded so well that the United States of America became a monster,
in which the taints, the sickness and the inhumanity of Europe
have grown to appalling dimensions.

― Frantz Fanon
What the United States does best is understand itself.
What it does worst is understand others.

- Carlos Fuentes
Poor Mexico, so far from God
and so close to the United States.

- Porfirio Diaz
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"Indeed, everything about the American southland was magical
and exotic to the young Canadian musicians, from the sights
and smells to the drawling manner of speech to, especially, the
central role that music played in people’s everyday lives."

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America is a mistake, a giant mistake.
- Sigmund Freud
America is an adorable woman chewing tobacco.
- Auguste Bartholdi
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"This is the tone of the China Century, a subtle
mix of Nazi/Soviet bravado and 'oriental'
cunning -- easily misunderstood, and
never
heard before, in a real enemy, by the West."

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"And for the others who argued for English-only
patriotism, I note that there are more than
57 million Americans (about 20% of the nation)
whose first-language is not English...."

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"This is the behavior, and the fate, of paranoid
old-world tyrants like Hitler or Saddam, not liberal new-world democracies like America pretends to be."

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America is the only nation in history which
miraculously has gone directly from barbarism to
degeneration without the usual interval of civilization.

- Georges Clemenceau
I found there a country with thirty-two religions and only one sauce.
- Charles–Maurice Talleyrand
A people who are still, as it were, but in the gristle,
and not yet hardened into the bone of manhood.

- Edmund Burke
America is the only country ever founded on the printed word.
- Marshall McLuhan
"The removal of racist sports nicknames (and mascots) seems outrageously belated
-- why, exactly, has this civil rights cause
taken so long to gain momentum?"

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The atom bomb is a paper tiger which the
United States reactionaries use to scare people.
It looks terrible, but in fact it isn't.

- Mao Tse-tung
They made us many promises, more than I can remember, but
they kept only one; they promised to take our land, and they did.

- Red Cloud
In America sex is an obsession,
in other parts of the world it is a fact.

- Marlene Dietrich
I would rather have a nod from an American,
than a snuff-box from an emperor.

- Lord Byron
One day the United States discovered it was an empire.
But it didn’t know what an empire was.
It thought that an empire was merely the biggest of all corporations.

- Roberto Calasso
Americans are so enamored of equality, they would rather
be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

- Alexis de Tocqueville
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"No one, I thought, could watch those scenes, of young children slaughtered en masse, and so many parents grieving, without thinking that this, finally, would tip some kind of balance in the country."
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If you are prepared to accept the consequences of your dreams
then you must still regard America today with the same naive
enthusiasm as the generations that discovered the New World.

- Jean Baudrillard
I am willing to love all mankind, except an American.
- Samuel Johnson
America, thou half brother of the world;
With something good and bad of every land.

- Philip Bailey
"What can be more powerful than disinformation in the Information Age?"
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England and America are two countries separated by the same language.
- Sir Walter Besant
Christopher Columbus, as everyone knows, is honored by
posterity because he was the last to discover America.

- James Joyce
Now, from America, empty indifferent things
are pouring across, sham things, dummy life.

- Rainer Maria Rilke
If the United States is to recover fortitude and lucidity,
it must recover itself, and to recover itself it must
recover the "others"- the outcasts of the Western world.
- Octavio Paz
The youth of America is their oldest tradition.
It has been going on now for three hundred years.

- Oscar Wilde
"America really is, for most Americans, all things considered, a good place to be, and all they really want is for everyone to enjoy the same privilege and pleasure."
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when bad Americans die they go to America.

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America is therefore the land of the future, where, in the ages that
lie before us, the burden of the World's History shall reveal itself.

- Georg Friedrich Hegel
America is a large, friendly dog in a very small room.
Every time it wags its tail, it knocks over a chair.

- Arnold Toynbee
Americans always try to do the right thing after they've tried everything else.
- Winston Churchill
The thing that impresses me most about Americans
is the way parents obey their children.

- Edward, Duke of Windsor
Americans are apt to be unduly interested in discovering
what average opinion believes average opinion to be.

- John Maynard Keynes
Europe was created by history.
America was created by philosophy.

- Margaret Thatcher
America is God's crucible, the great Melting-Pot where all the races of
Europe are melting and reforming!... The real American has not yet arrived.
He is only in the crucible, I tell you - he will be the fusion of all races.

- Israel Zangwill
American dreams are strongest in the hearts of those
who have seen America only in their dreams.

- Pico Iyer
America: It's like Britain, only with buttons.
- Ringo Starr
The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer.
It has never yet melted.

― D.H. Lawrence
I have two conflicting visions of America.
One is a kind of dream landscape and the other is a kind of black comedy.

― Bono
The American mirror, said the voice, the sad American mirror
of wealth and poverty and constant useless metamorphosis,
the mirror that sails and whose sails are pain.

― Roberto Bolaño

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Author Topic: The Yellow Wall-Paper & 13 Reason Why


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The Yellow Wall-Paper & 13 Reason Why
on: April 3, 2018, 18:39

Literature and art are examples of efficient mediums that can be used to portray and pass statements on social issues, and create an impact on society. One of today's social issues revolve around "raising awareness for mental illness in society" to teach people about the various mental illnesses, their symptoms, causes, and ways to deal with them. The underlying purpose for this effort is to change the way people have been perceiving these conditions (and the people suffering with them) with ignorance, suspicion, fear, ridicule, and superstition, and convey to everyone that these illnesses are "normal" and can happen to anyone. The idea of using literature and art to send across eye-opening messages about mental illness can be traced back to Stetson's short story from the 19th century: "The Yellow Wall-Paper" where the author tries to convey that postpartum depression is a common condition in women after childbirth, and it did not require the extreme treatment prescribed during the time for recovery, but just understanding, love and support. The character in this story, Jane. suffers from this illness (even though she is unaware of it) after giving birth to her baby and gets put under "rest cure", where she is forced to live in the nursery by her husband, take medicines and exercise in the hopes to recover; she is forced to refrain from doing any sort of work and even writing.

This narrative shares similarities with the 2017 show made by Netflix called 13 Reasons Why primarily because this show was made as an attempt to raise awareness about teen depression and suicide, and to convey that depression is a common condition but it cannot go ignored, and needs care and support. In the show, Hannah Baker, a high school student experiences a series of situations that involve bullying, slut-shaming, issues with treacherous friends, and even sexual abuse and rape; these experiences lead her towards depression which gets chronic when she is not able to share them with the peers or grownups in her life since their ignorance makes them unavailable. While Jane's husband misunderstands her and ignores her requests to work or live a normal life, Hannah's peers shut her out her claiming she is weird and dramatic; even her good friend, Clay is not able to understand or reach out to her.

This type of isolation leads Hannah to commit suicide, and similarly leads Jane towards a nervous breakdown. In her time, Stetson was successful in showing that the "rest cure" was a wrong method to treat mental conditions. Claims have been made that 13 Reason Why glorifies suicide as an escape route from personal troubles (instead of showing a more positive approach where the main character fights back); yet, the show still succeeds in bringing forth the reality of teen depression in society. I think both authors intended to depict the demise or ultimate downfall of their protagonists to show the extreme consequences one can face when left alone to deal with a mental illness without proper support. It is interesting to note that it has been two centuries since Setson's narrative, and the society is still in the process of "discovering and learning" about mental illnesses.



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Re: The Yellow Wall-Paper & 13 Reason Why
on: April 3, 2018, 22:34

I really like how you connected the theme of mental illness in both “The Yellow-Wallpaper” by Gilman which was written all the way during the 19th Century and “13 Reasons Why” which is a very popular yet controversial series. I agree that both the literary world and the cinematic world are raising awareness on mental health and illness since society still needs to be educated and understand that mental health is just as important as physical health. I also find it interesting how both works are focusing on the gendered aspect of mental illness especially since women both are looking at the female perspective. It comes to show how the experiences of women in the past can somewhat connect to the experiences of women in the present. Furthermore, it also demonstrates how society hasn’t really understood and valued the importance of mental health. For Gilman’s protagonist, she experiences isolation and the effects of the ideologies that society has for women especially when it comes to science and medicine. For the series, I think it really highlights the effects that bullying and sexual abuse can bring especially when it comes to mental health for teenagers because they are going through a period in their life where things can get complicated and they are still figuring out how the world works. Also, I
As a final thought, I wonder whether or not Gilman’s short story was just as controversial as “13 Reasons Why”.



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Re: The Yellow Wall-Paper & 13 Reason Why
on: April 4, 2018, 02:58

The words "yellow wall-paper" and "13 reasons why" together in a sentence caught my attention. I didn't even think about a connection like that but it's quite interesting. When considering "the yellow wall-paper," the word "creep" shows up quite often. This could connect to the narrator's mental illness creeping up on her, or the slow build up of pressures that, when can no longer be contained, bursts and breaks the individual to sometimes, a point of no return. I think this is one connection between the show and the story. Both women are pushed to a point where they can't physically nor mentally return. Another thought came to mind when I read your final thought of the story being controversial. And that was maybe the though of mental illness itself is "creepy." I would assume that in the time Gilman is writing, people are not as accepting nor caring towards a topic like mental illness. Thus, people with mental illness may be viewed as "creepy" instead of victims of a problem that's sometimes out of their hands. However, present day has shown much more awareness and acceptance towards this topic, and so to contribute a thought to your question, I don't think Gilman's story would be controversial in that sense, considering the patriarchal mindset and less technological development and knowledge about this subject.

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