American hedonism closes its eyes to death, and has been
incapable of exorcising the destructive power of the moment
with a wisdom like that of the Epicureans of antiquity.

- Octavio Paz
Death is un-American, and an affront to every citizen's inalienable
right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

- Arnold Toynbee
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"As long as such self-serving hypocrisy
motivates America's response, Ukraine will
only sink further into needless bloodshed,
and that blood will be on America's head."
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In America everybody is of the opinion that he has no social superiors,
since all men are equal, but he does not admit that he has no social inferiors,
for, from the time of Jefferson onward, the doctrine that all men are equal
applies only upwards, not downwards.

― Bertrand Russell
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"What those 'racists' are reflexively and rightly reacting
to is the soulless chill as the fire goes out beneath the
melting pot. Those who think America can thrive as a
'cultural mosaic' are worse than fools; they're Canadians."

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Two centuries ago, a former European colony decided to catch up with Europe.
It succeeded so well that the United States of America became a monster,
in which the taints, the sickness and the inhumanity of Europe
have grown to appalling dimensions.

― Frantz Fanon
What the United States does best is understand itself.
What it does worst is understand others.

- Carlos Fuentes
Poor Mexico, so far from God
and so close to the United States.

- Porfirio Diaz
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"Indeed, everything about the American southland was magical
and exotic to the young Canadian musicians, from the sights
and smells to the drawling manner of speech to, especially, the
central role that music played in people’s everyday lives."

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America is a mistake, a giant mistake.
- Sigmund Freud
America is an adorable woman chewing tobacco.
- Auguste Bartholdi
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"This is the tone of the China Century, a subtle
mix of Nazi/Soviet bravado and 'oriental'
cunning -- easily misunderstood, and
never
heard before, in a real enemy, by the West."

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"And for the others who argued for English-only
patriotism, I note that there are more than
57 million Americans (about 20% of the nation)
whose first-language is not English...."

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"This is the behavior, and the fate, of paranoid
old-world tyrants like Hitler or Saddam, not liberal new-world democracies like America pretends to be."

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America is the only nation in history which
miraculously has gone directly from barbarism to
degeneration without the usual interval of civilization.

- Georges Clemenceau
I found there a country with thirty-two religions and only one sauce.
- Charles–Maurice Talleyrand
A people who are still, as it were, but in the gristle,
and not yet hardened into the bone of manhood.

- Edmund Burke
America is the only country ever founded on the printed word.
- Marshall McLuhan
"The removal of racist sports nicknames (and mascots) seems outrageously belated
-- why, exactly, has this civil rights cause
taken so long to gain momentum?"

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The atom bomb is a paper tiger which the
United States reactionaries use to scare people.
It looks terrible, but in fact it isn't.

- Mao Tse-tung
They made us many promises, more than I can remember, but
they kept only one; they promised to take our land, and they did.

- Red Cloud
In America sex is an obsession,
in other parts of the world it is a fact.

- Marlene Dietrich
I would rather have a nod from an American,
than a snuff-box from an emperor.

- Lord Byron
One day the United States discovered it was an empire.
But it didn’t know what an empire was.
It thought that an empire was merely the biggest of all corporations.

- Roberto Calasso
Americans are so enamored of equality, they would rather
be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

- Alexis de Tocqueville
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"No one, I thought, could watch those scenes, of young children slaughtered en masse, and so many parents grieving, without thinking that this, finally, would tip some kind of balance in the country."
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If you are prepared to accept the consequences of your dreams
then you must still regard America today with the same naive
enthusiasm as the generations that discovered the New World.

- Jean Baudrillard
I am willing to love all mankind, except an American.
- Samuel Johnson
America, thou half brother of the world;
With something good and bad of every land.

- Philip Bailey
"What can be more powerful than disinformation in the Information Age?"
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England and America are two countries separated by the same language.
- Sir Walter Besant
Christopher Columbus, as everyone knows, is honored by
posterity because he was the last to discover America.

- James Joyce
Now, from America, empty indifferent things
are pouring across, sham things, dummy life.

- Rainer Maria Rilke
If the United States is to recover fortitude and lucidity,
it must recover itself, and to recover itself it must
recover the "others"- the outcasts of the Western world.
- Octavio Paz
The youth of America is their oldest tradition.
It has been going on now for three hundred years.

- Oscar Wilde
"America really is, for most Americans, all things considered, a good place to be, and all they really want is for everyone to enjoy the same privilege and pleasure."
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When good Americans die they go to Paris;
when bad Americans die they go to America.

- Oscar Wilde
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America is therefore the land of the future, where, in the ages that
lie before us, the burden of the World's History shall reveal itself.

- Georg Friedrich Hegel
America is a large, friendly dog in a very small room.
Every time it wags its tail, it knocks over a chair.

- Arnold Toynbee
Americans always try to do the right thing after they've tried everything else.
- Winston Churchill
The thing that impresses me most about Americans
is the way parents obey their children.

- Edward, Duke of Windsor
Americans are apt to be unduly interested in discovering
what average opinion believes average opinion to be.

- John Maynard Keynes
Europe was created by history.
America was created by philosophy.

- Margaret Thatcher
America is God's crucible, the great Melting-Pot where all the races of
Europe are melting and reforming!... The real American has not yet arrived.
He is only in the crucible, I tell you - he will be the fusion of all races.

- Israel Zangwill
American dreams are strongest in the hearts of those
who have seen America only in their dreams.

- Pico Iyer
America: It's like Britain, only with buttons.
- Ringo Starr
The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer.
It has never yet melted.

― D.H. Lawrence
I have two conflicting visions of America.
One is a kind of dream landscape and the other is a kind of black comedy.

― Bono
The American mirror, said the voice, the sad American mirror
of wealth and poverty and constant useless metamorphosis,
the mirror that sails and whose sails are pain.

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Thomas Kings Themes in Todays Culture: An Analysis of Moana
on: March 26, 2017, 14:34

Through this course we have gotten the opportunity to read and analyze Thomas King's novel, Green Grass, Running Water, which contains water imagery throughout. King's notion of water imagery could serve as a critique of European American dominance over Native Americans. King focuses on revising biblical stories in an attempt to erase the dominating discourse of these narratives. Over two decades later, Disney releases Moana, set in Ancient Polynesia, and as I watched this film I could not help but draw so many connections between King's novel and this new movie. King's novel opens with a retelling of the genesis story. Similarly, Moana opens with a genesis story stating, "In the beginning, there was only ocean...". From the opening lines it is evident that the movie, much like King's novel, has set out to critique Catholic/Euro American dominance. Throughout the movie, I viewed the protagonist, Moana, as a representation of Native American beliefs (she emphasizes the importance of nature and community), while the character of Maui can be seen as a representation of European American beliefs (he emphasizes power, individuality, and ownership of nature). Ultimately, Moana teaches Maui Native American values, that they must work together in order to complete the adventure. If you have not had the pleasure of watching this movie, I highly recommend it. Furthermore, I'll warn you that you will not be able to ignore the similarities between King's novel and Moana.

Here is a link to Moana's IMDB page:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3521164/



RJansen
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Re: Thomas Kings Themes in Todays Culture: An Analysis of Moana
on: March 28, 2017, 22:33

This is really fascinating Sasha! When I first watched Moana I had not yet read Green Grass, Running Water so I did not make that connection, but now that you have mentioned it I definitely see some similar themes. To expand on your connections, one of my favourite characters in the film was Moana’s grandmother, and I think she is a bit of a trickster figure—she is the most prominent storyteller in the film, who undermines the authority and social structure of the village, wreaking havoc but also producing positive change in her wake.
The theme of the interconnectedness between the people and nature is also a prominent one in this film, and the angry god/ monster who takes away the health of the land because one of the people has displeased her is very reminiscent of the drought in Ceremony, as is the idea of the “rite of passage” to fix the problem. Overall I think the connection you made was a brilliant one, and it really made me think about how themes in Native American literature may be transferring to or already existing in popular culture today.



AMac
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Re: Thomas Kings Themes in Todays Culture: An Analysis of Moana
on: March 31, 2017, 20:31

I completely agree with everything that both Sasha and Rachel have had to say about Moana to this point. For me personally, the thing that struck me the most about the movie was Moana's relationship with nature and how that connected to Green Grass, Running Water. One of the common themes in the novel was that nature was supposed to be appreciated and the people were meant to live in harmony with it, understanding it. Moana's father and the chief leader is fearful of the outside world because of a previous bad experience, and his hesitation to travel outside the island he knows is also part of the village he commands. Moana by comparison has no such fear, and understands there is more to be found out in the world. The world comes alive more than ever before during her adventure, as the ocean becomes a character, and Te Fiti, the Polynesian version of mother nature, takes a physical form in the movie. I felt that both the book and the movie had aspects of teaching readers and viewers not to interfere with nature - in the book the interference was the dam and in the movie the interference was Maui stealing the heart of Te Fiti. Moana's relationship with nature and the ability to recognize the monster Te Ka was actually Te Fiti allows her to restore the heart and rejuvenate the earth once more. Moana's understanding and relationship with nature is what gives her the ability to save the world and her people. The overall message shows that harmony with nature is of vast importance, a feeling that the native americans have always respected and more westerners also need to respect.



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Re: Thomas Kings Themes in Todays Culture: An Analysis of Moana
on: April 4, 2017, 01:35

Another in agreement!
Growing up Pocahontas was one of my favourite movies but the problematic stereotypes and misstelling of history is quite obvious and uncomfortable. It is remarkable to see Disney attempting to make an authentic telling of Native American stories. Obviously the similarities between Green Grass, Running Water and Moana are striking, but as we've learned through the array of novels we've read this semester, Moana seems to be picking up on the main commentary that consistently runs through Native American literature. The Native American traditions versus the European traditions and the necessary deep connections with nature that has been expressed through all the literature we've read this semester. It especially reminds me of Ceremony with Moana's interaction with Te Ka and her being able to control the nature where Tayo is able to bring back the rain with becoming healthy again. Meaning not only are we reliant on nature but nature is reliant on us.



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Re: Thomas Kings Themes in Todays Culture: An Analysis of Moana
on: April 4, 2017, 16:28

That is such a great observation, Sasha! Themes across Native American literature are definitely starting to bleed into popular culture. And now that you mention it, I’m surprised that I didn’t pick up on the parallels between Disney’s “Moana” and Thomas King’s “Green Grass, Running Water” sooner!

“Moana” received a lot of hype upon its release. Through the portrayal of a strong, independent and resourceful female character (without a love interest), Disney created the first bona fide Indigenous princess. She is the perfect representation for Native American beliefs, while Maui is a symbolical embodiment of European American culture. It is not until Moana shares her cultural practices and traditions with him that they are able to successfully complete their adventure.

I would also argue that Moana’s grandmother serves as a trickster archetype, as she undermines authority and the structural confines of her village. She marches to the beat of her own drum but does so in a somewhat sneaky manner.

The symbolic importance of water is evident in both works, but the interconnection between man and the natural world was what captivated me. Characters seem to have genuine relationships with the landscapes that surround them. Like King's "Green Grass, Running Water", it is also enforced in Disney's "Moana" that environments are not to be tampered with.

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