American hedonism closes its eyes to death, and has been
incapable of exorcising the destructive power of the moment
with a wisdom like that of the Epicureans of antiquity.

- Octavio Paz
Death is un-American, and an affront to every citizen's inalienable
right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

- Arnold Toynbee
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"As long as such self-serving hypocrisy
motivates America's response, Ukraine will
only sink further into needless bloodshed,
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In America everybody is of the opinion that he has no social superiors,
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applies only upwards, not downwards.

― Bertrand Russell
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"What those 'racists' are reflexively and rightly reacting
to is the soulless chill as the fire goes out beneath the
melting pot. Those who think America can thrive as a
'cultural mosaic' are worse than fools; they're Canadians."

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Two centuries ago, a former European colony decided to catch up with Europe.
It succeeded so well that the United States of America became a monster,
in which the taints, the sickness and the inhumanity of Europe
have grown to appalling dimensions.

― Frantz Fanon
What the United States does best is understand itself.
What it does worst is understand others.

- Carlos Fuentes
Poor Mexico, so far from God
and so close to the United States.

- Porfirio Diaz
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"Indeed, everything about the American southland was magical
and exotic to the young Canadian musicians, from the sights
and smells to the drawling manner of speech to, especially, the
central role that music played in people’s everyday lives."

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America is a mistake, a giant mistake.
- Sigmund Freud
America is an adorable woman chewing tobacco.
- Auguste Bartholdi
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"This is the tone of the China Century, a subtle
mix of Nazi/Soviet bravado and 'oriental'
cunning -- easily misunderstood, and
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patriotism, I note that there are more than
57 million Americans (about 20% of the nation)
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America is the only nation in history which
miraculously has gone directly from barbarism to
degeneration without the usual interval of civilization.

- Georges Clemenceau
I found there a country with thirty-two religions and only one sauce.
- Charles–Maurice Talleyrand
A people who are still, as it were, but in the gristle,
and not yet hardened into the bone of manhood.

- Edmund Burke
America is the only country ever founded on the printed word.
- Marshall McLuhan
"The removal of racist sports nicknames (and mascots) seems outrageously belated
-- why, exactly, has this civil rights cause
taken so long to gain momentum?"

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The atom bomb is a paper tiger which the
United States reactionaries use to scare people.
It looks terrible, but in fact it isn't.

- Mao Tse-tung
They made us many promises, more than I can remember, but
they kept only one; they promised to take our land, and they did.

- Red Cloud
In America sex is an obsession,
in other parts of the world it is a fact.

- Marlene Dietrich
I would rather have a nod from an American,
than a snuff-box from an emperor.

- Lord Byron
One day the United States discovered it was an empire.
But it didn’t know what an empire was.
It thought that an empire was merely the biggest of all corporations.

- Roberto Calasso
Americans are so enamored of equality, they would rather
be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

- Alexis de Tocqueville
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then you must still regard America today with the same naive
enthusiasm as the generations that discovered the New World.

- Jean Baudrillard
I am willing to love all mankind, except an American.
- Samuel Johnson
America, thou half brother of the world;
With something good and bad of every land.

- Philip Bailey
"What can be more powerful than disinformation in the Information Age?"
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- Sir Walter Besant
Christopher Columbus, as everyone knows, is honored by
posterity because he was the last to discover America.

- James Joyce
Now, from America, empty indifferent things
are pouring across, sham things, dummy life.

- Rainer Maria Rilke
If the United States is to recover fortitude and lucidity,
it must recover itself, and to recover itself it must
recover the "others"- the outcasts of the Western world.
- Octavio Paz
The youth of America is their oldest tradition.
It has been going on now for three hundred years.

- Oscar Wilde
"America really is, for most Americans, all things considered, a good place to be, and all they really want is for everyone to enjoy the same privilege and pleasure."
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America is therefore the land of the future, where, in the ages that
lie before us, the burden of the World's History shall reveal itself.

- Georg Friedrich Hegel
America is a large, friendly dog in a very small room.
Every time it wags its tail, it knocks over a chair.

- Arnold Toynbee
Americans always try to do the right thing after they've tried everything else.
- Winston Churchill
The thing that impresses me most about Americans
is the way parents obey their children.

- Edward, Duke of Windsor
Americans are apt to be unduly interested in discovering
what average opinion believes average opinion to be.

- John Maynard Keynes
Europe was created by history.
America was created by philosophy.

- Margaret Thatcher
America is God's crucible, the great Melting-Pot where all the races of
Europe are melting and reforming!... The real American has not yet arrived.
He is only in the crucible, I tell you - he will be the fusion of all races.

- Israel Zangwill
American dreams are strongest in the hearts of those
who have seen America only in their dreams.

- Pico Iyer
America: It's like Britain, only with buttons.
- Ringo Starr
The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer.
It has never yet melted.

― D.H. Lawrence
I have two conflicting visions of America.
One is a kind of dream landscape and the other is a kind of black comedy.

― Bono
The American mirror, said the voice, the sad American mirror
of wealth and poverty and constant useless metamorphosis,
the mirror that sails and whose sails are pain.

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Alex Wang
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America and Asian secession
on: November 16, 2013, 13:05

Here is a recent outcry from Hao Tiechuan, Director General of Beijing's the Department of Publicity, Cultural and Sports Affairs (http://www.scmp.com/article/980526/us-consulate-accused-encouraging-secession).
He claims that America's huge embassy in Hong Kong is actively encouraging Hong Kong secession from the PRC.
Sounds like the Cold War a little?
Of course America and the PRC are just "friendly competitors" in the global village, but since (1) it is the China Century, (2) Hong Kong and the Republic of China are obviously of critical strategic importance in limiting the PRC's rise of dominance in Asia and then the world (like Japan's "stepping stones" in WWII), (3) unlike Cuba for the USSR, America has no "colonial" tie to either region, (4) America is not like the USSR, (5) the PRC is like the USSR, I see more and more of these "unofficial" outcries from Beijing in future, as overtures to an official aggressive "response" from Beijing, and I see no present hope of resistance to PRC assimilation of the ROC within this century.
What will the US do if the PRC like a python steadily tightens its grip on the ROC with each breath out, holding off far off states (like France and the Netherlands, who both stopped selling arms to the ROC in the 1990s, bowing to PRC pressure) from relief, with economic and (more and more) political manipulation?
Will it make a certain enemy of its friendly competitor, in the China Century, just to prop up a tiny state that no one wants to go away, but no one wants to recognize either?
Ironically, the more the PRC comes to resemble the ROC, the less chance the ROC has to survive. Like a virus that maps the gene code of its target in order to consume it. And the west will watch and watch until Hong Kong looks so much like the ROC that they can say to their weak conscience, "Well look, the ROC looks so much like Hong Kong, there's so little difference really, now, and China says if we let them they'll do this and if we don't they'll do that, and that would be bad for everybody, so, well, of course with strict UN regulations and supervision..."
And that will be the end of "Taiwan".
Hong Kong is just a semi-capitalist "stepping stone" to the ROC. And the ROC is a stepping stone to where else?
First Anschluss, then Lebensraum.



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Re: America and Asian secession
on: November 16, 2013, 21:38

A fascinating post, Alex!
I'm woefully ignorant about this topic, I'm afraid, but am hoping to get better educated soon.
I was intrigued, in any case, to run across Zhou Enlai's comments about Taiwan -- now in our archives! (https://www.theiramerica.org/the-chinese-people-will-not-tolerate-aggression-zhou-enlai/) -- from way back in 1950 (he is assessing the implications for China of American support of anti-communist forces in the region, and specifically of the US's entry into the Korean War). Most interesting to me was his sense of destiny in regard to Chinese unification, and the importance of Tibet in those plans (which I mistakenly assumed was not a focal point of Chinese interest until decades later).

Today the first unification of the Chinese people has emerged. The people themselves have become the masters of Chinese soil, and the rule of the reactionaries in China has been irrevocably overthrown.

Since the enemy annihilated by the Chinese people was armed by the U.S. Government, then we can completely affirm that the Chinese people have not only won victory over the enemy at home, but also over the enemy abroad—that is, the imperialist interventionists of the United States. If the American imperialists still want to intervene in and invade China with whatever new means and in whatever new forms, they will then meet with the same defeat that befell the Kuomintang.

The struggle between the Chinese people and the remnant of Kuomintang reactionaries has not yet come to an end. This is because Taiwan, which is occupied by the reactionary remnants, is now under the direct control of the American Navy and Air Force.

The People’s Liberation Army is determined to liberate Taiwan from the grip of the American aggressors, and to clear out the lairs of the reactionary brigands of China once and for all. It will be seen that, in the war for the liberation of Taiwan, our strategic position is much better than any enemy’s. On our side stands inspired righteousness; our rear is close, vast and consolidated and we are now redoubling our efforts for the final victory. The People’s Liberation Army is also determined to march westward to liberate the Tibetan people and defend the frontiers of China. We are willing to undertake peaceful negotiations to bring about this step, which is necessary to the security of our motherland. The patriots in Tibet have expressly welcomed this, and we hope that the local authorities in Tibet will not hesitate in bringing about a peaceful solution to the question.



Alex Wang
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Re: America and Asian secession
on: November 30, 2013, 17:15

See the time: 1950. It's the rhetoric of the time.
Now, same thinking, but 21st-century rhetoric.
Hong Kong is like the Star Trek 'universal translator', translating Zhou into friendly Westernese.
"We come in peace."
Etc.

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