American hedonism closes its eyes to death, and has been
incapable of exorcising the destructive power of the moment
with a wisdom like that of the Epicureans of antiquity.

- Octavio Paz
Death is un-American, and an affront to every citizen's inalienable
right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

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A people who are still, as it were, but in the gristle,
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America is the only country ever founded on the printed word.
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"The removal of racist sports nicknames (and mascots) seems outrageously belated
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In America sex is an obsession,
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I would rather have a nod from an American,
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- Lord Byron
One day the United States discovered it was an empire.
But it didn’t know what an empire was.
It thought that an empire was merely the biggest of all corporations.

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are pouring across, sham things, dummy life.

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it must recover itself, and to recover itself it must
recover the "others"- the outcasts of the Western world.
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America is therefore the land of the future, where, in the ages that
lie before us, the burden of the World's History shall reveal itself.

- Georg Friedrich Hegel
America is a large, friendly dog in a very small room.
Every time it wags its tail, it knocks over a chair.

- Arnold Toynbee
Americans always try to do the right thing after they've tried everything else.
- Winston Churchill
The thing that impresses me most about Americans
is the way parents obey their children.

- Edward, Duke of Windsor
Americans are apt to be unduly interested in discovering
what average opinion believes average opinion to be.

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Europe was created by history.
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- Margaret Thatcher
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Europe are melting and reforming!... The real American has not yet arrived.
He is only in the crucible, I tell you - he will be the fusion of all races.

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American dreams are strongest in the hearts of those
who have seen America only in their dreams.

- Pico Iyer
America: It's like Britain, only with buttons.
- Ringo Starr
The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer.
It has never yet melted.

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Brian-
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It`s all about Disneyland (not the oil)
on: October 17, 2013, 01:14

I’m no expert on America to be sure, but having lived most of my life in its suburbs (Canada), spent a year as a grad student in NYC, visited countless times, and long been intrigued by the explosive contradictions of the place, I can speak of it with the familiarity, yet objectivity, of any observant suburbanite, I think. And frankly, it’s always amazed me how such an overt thing as America can remain hidden to so many.

There is no question in my mind, for example, that, viewed from the broad and homogenizing perspective of history—which will, I think, have little to say about the whole weapons-of-mass-destruction thing —America went in and thumped Saddam’s Iraq for essentially the same reasons that it went in and thumped Hitler’s Germany, sort of went in and failed to thump the communists in Korea and Vietnam, and is itching to go in and thump Assad’s Syria. And that, having spent a great deal of money and lives thumping them, America—Americans—hoped to do essentially the same thing in post-war Iraq as they had done in post-war Germany and Japan, did in South Korea, and would happily have done in Vietnam.

Put simply, though the limbs of the corpus Americanus may at times have flailed about, and its movements seemed anything but steady and true, its center of gravity always moved, is moving, and perhaps always will move, so long as it is America, with a terrifying and implacable calm, and always in the same direction: to Disneyland.

I hate to say it to the Michael Moores of the world (because they’re a pretty loud bunch), but it seems to me they essentially went in, and fought, and died, to Rid the World of Evil, as laughable, suspicious or frankly impossible as that may appear to those doomed to laugh, suspect or deny; to peel the lid off its pathetic little hole in the ground, put it on trial, find it guilty as they always knew it was, and put it away; and then to pour their heart and soul, and spectacular resources, into creating a Little America in their own image. Because, unlike Canada for instance, which is wonderful completely in spite of itself, America really is, for most Americans, all things considered, a good place to be, and all they really want is for everyone to enjoy the same privilege and pleasure. They gave it to the Germans and the Japanese, exchanging gold for the blasted shards of their homelands, and they wanted to give it to the Iraqis; but the Iraqis, thus far at least, don’t seem to want it. Instead, they seem to want to blow themselves up, when there are no Americans to blow up.

And thus they stand baffled, behind their Green Zone Wall, pointing toward Germany and Japan, and asking, genuinely and willing to die for a better answer, ‘What is wrong with you people? Why won’t you let us help you be as happy, healthy and well-adjusted, as prosperous, peaceful and free, as we did them? Within one generation of us blasting them into oblivion, we were borrowing money from them to survive!’

I think they truly don’t understand, and we don’t understand them not understanding.

They (as I) have an absolute faith in liberal democracy’s capacity, if given the chance to truly take root in a people, to de-tooth and disarm them forever; and they are armed (to the teeth) to protect and promulgate that faith. History has proven it right, and will continue to do so, I think, until history is done proving anything, and really does end, in Disneyland, though much blood is yet to be shed in opposing this obvious fact.



Wyatt Dick
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Re: It`s all about Disneyland (not the oil)
on: October 17, 2013, 06:47

I agree with this assessment; though there may be some confusion--even delusion--on the part of American leaders about their aims when they decide to go into a country (and about how they intend to exit). But when America commits to "building a nation", it does so principally for the reasons the original poster has described. Whether the American desire to make other nations in their image is entirely altruistic is probably debatable: America tends to view a world full of Little Americas as being in their broad strategic interest, even when they create fierce economic competitors. But whether the US is strictly altruistic also probably doesn't matter--if you help a neighbor rebuild after a fire because it is the neighborly thing to do, AND because it improves property values, no one is likely to think less of you.

I would say that even in cases like Iraq, where it was pretty clear that the US went in knowing it intended to engage in some nation building, more complex strategic considerations do play a part in the initial selection of which country to remodel. In some ways, America is like a transplant surgeon with a limited number of livers to implant: they can't save everyone. So why save an Iraq and not a Somalia? This is where oil does play a part, in my opinion. As does the fact that Iraq is an Arab and Muslim country. America isn’t in Iraq to take the oil, but the importance of the Middle East oil supplies, and the threat posed by Islamic terrorism, make Iraq a good choice for Disneyland transplantation.

The historically proven, Borg-like ability of liberal, capitalist democracy to eventually take root in any soil and, in time, fully assimilate and transform the native vegetation leads me to a disturbing thought: perhaps the "terrorists" are right in certain aspects of their strategic assessment. Despite liberal claims to the contrary, perhaps the West is at war with Islam--as it is and has been at war with all ways of thinking and being that are not essentially materialistic. This war began a long time ago, and each day Muslims are subject to another deadly artillery barrage of i-pads and pornography sites. Of course we are equal opportunity aggressors in this respect. We have long ago destroyed the ability of our own religions to have a significant influence on any of the important trends in western culture. It's okay--perhaps even encouraged-- to believe in an all-knowing, all-powerful and beneficent supernatural being. But for God's sake, don't let him tell you how to live your life!

And the threat of western materialism is much greater to Islam than any army of conquest has ever been. Even the longest foreign occupations can be waited out by a patient people. But no one has ever come back from Disneyland.



Brian-
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Re: It`s all about Disneyland (not the oil)
on: October 18, 2013, 13:01

Wyatt: I would say that even in cases like Iraq, where it was pretty clear that the US went in knowing it intended to engage in some nation building, more complex strategic considerations do play a part in the initial selection of which country to remodel. In some ways, America is like a transplant surgeon with a limited number of livers to implant: they can't save everyone. So why save an Iraq and not a Somalia? This is where oil does play a part, in my opinion. As does the fact that Iraq is an Arab and Muslim country. America isn’t in Iraq to take the oil, but the importance of the Middle East oil supplies, and the threat posed by Islamic terrorism, make Iraq a good choice for Disneyland transplantation.

The people have no War Room, no policy sessions, no think tanks. But as Tolstoy rightly argued, I think, the people ultimately make history. The great, unarticulated, unintentional, but perfectly inevitable movement of America's center of gravity was to replace darkness with light, in the heart of Arabia, and let that light shine, warming and illuminating everything around it. Never articulated as a Policy Objective or Strategic Benefit, but pursued as surely and irrevocably as good people do good, and bad people bad. Those strategic benefits of yours are so many moons revolving around that sun.
(This is why George W. Bush was such an iconic president for me (vs. his father for example, or most vividly, Obama). He moved unthinkingly, like a clown of God, flailing every which way, yet never deflected a hairsbreadth from that perfect center line. The glassy wide-eyed gaze in the classroom when told of 9/11, routinely mistaken for paralyzed bafflement, was merely the human face of the still small voice as it gathered itself to speak.)

Wyatt: The historically proven, Borg-like ability of liberal, capitalist democracy to eventually take root in any soil and, in time, fully assimilate and transform the native vegetation leads me to a disturbing thought: perhaps the "terrorists" are right in certain aspects of their strategic assessment. Despite liberal claims to the contrary, perhaps the West is at war with Islam.

Yes, and with the Islam within itself, as you say.

Wyatt: And the threat of western materialism is much greater to Islam than any army of conquest has ever been. Even the longest foreign occupations can be waited out by a patient people. But no one has ever come back from Disneyland.

Amen, brother.



furlani
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Re: It`s all about Disneyland (not the oil)
on: October 18, 2013, 22:28

Perhaps a clearer sense of what Disneyland means is in order. I'm guessing: corporate (not republican), seductive (not admonitory or coercive), commercial (not devotional or communitarian), infinitely reproducible (not originary), diversionary (not disciplinary), synthetic (not authentic), engrossing (not enlightening), sterile and artificial (not fecund, not organic), and silly (not profound). If Wyatt is correct, and the U.S. merits some sober filial deference from its errant adopted children for its military virtues and sacrifices, how attain this if it means saluting not Old Glory but Daffy Duck? How exalt a Sherman's March that files into Orlando Florida? There's still THAT Atlanta yet to burn!
"It was wonderful to find America," Pudd'nhead Wilson says on Columbus Day, "but it would have been more wonderful to miss it."



Brian-
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Re: It`s all about Disneyland (not the oil)
on: October 19, 2013, 07:53

furlani: Perhaps a clearer sense of what Disneyland means is in order. I'm guessing: corporate (not republican), seductive (not admonitory or coercive), commercial (not devotional or communitarian), infinitely reproducible (not originary), diversionary (not disciplinary), synthetic (not authentic), engrossing (not enlightening), sterile and artificial (not fecund, not organic), and silly (not profound).

Wow, interesting, intricate, and to me almost wholly incomprehensible list. Certainly, getting a clearer sense of your Disneyland is in order for me, anyway.
Mine is far less articulate, or articulable (at least for me); and I'm very hesitant to conceptualize it discursively. It's certainly eschatological. More like heaven, or hell.
Most of all it feels like a fate.
Think of those Disneyland sports ads, where some (real) athlete, seconds after (really) attaining some goal he has (really) fought hard for years to win, is asked 'What are you going to do now?' And whoever and wherever he is, whatever the struggle and whatever the achievement he has fought for and won, he answers 'I'm going to Disneyland!'
The lifetime struggles of these animated symbols of our own agonistic existence, who increasingly struggle for us, always end up in Disneyland. All ways end up in Disneyland.
Put simply, it's the inauthentic reward for bearing the (increasingly painful and easily avoided) burden of authenticity.
And see fate at work: where once it was the place (heaven, Valhalla, nirvana) you somehow earned as the reward for a lifelong and finally life-consuming struggle; now it's in your back pocket, soon before your eyes, and finally, I fully expect (first for business--the competitive advantage--and then for pleasure, as always), implanted in your brain.
Liberal democracy's nirvana.
Safe, clean, peaceful and protected--not from anything outside, because there is no outside anymore--but from any trace of disquiet within; in fact strikingly womblike, but without a womb's fecundity (or terror); the Matrix after the rebels have lost, the Truman Show without the Show--an endless mall; effectively apolitical, since politics was just another agonistic medium for a struggle now concluded; and above all, con-cluded, shut up together, like a collapsed star.
Canada is the future of America.

furlani: If Wyatt is correct, and the U.S. merits some sober filial deference from its errant adopted children for its military virtues and sacrifices, how attain this if it means saluting not Old Glory but Daffy Duck?

To salute is to acknowledge and respect some external authority; but Disneyland isn't external. It's not internal either, though. It's more like a purpose (or a magic spell); like the oak haunting the acorn. Nobody need salute it; they simply become it. Nobody cracking open a Coke in Delhi is saluting America, but they're becoming American. The poor subsistence farmers here in the Ukraine, almost all of whom wear baseball caps and t-shirts with (to them) meaningless American logos and slogans, aren't endorsing the corporate ideal; they're living it, rather as the Indians were living British before Gandhi, except here there is no longer any authentic alternative, and that's the point.



AnyaH-vdL
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Re: It`s all about Disneyland (not the oil)
on: October 19, 2013, 09:28

Most of all it feels like a fate.

I would agree that Disneyland - and the way of life it stands for - feels like a fate, but it certainly is also entirely unreal, a self-perpetuating, contenless image - a simulacrum, as Baudrillard has argued. Maybe that's what makes it so compelling and also much harder to sell to any culture with a strong moral belief system (like Islam).

Nobody need salute it; they simply become it. Nobody cracking open a Coke in Delhi is saluting America, but they're becoming American. The poor subsistence farmers here in the Ukraine, almost all of whom wear baseball caps and t-shirts with (to them) meaningless American logos and slogans, aren't endorsing the corporate ideal; they're living it,

I'd agree that we are all adopting the outward signs of American culture, however, does that really mean "becoming American"? And if so, what does becomeing American mean? To me, what you describe sounds like a colonial effort. However, in colonial and postcolonial cultures the colonized also have an effect on the colonizers (to find an image for this within your Disneyland metaphor: there is a replica of the German castle of Neuschwanstein in Disneyland). So, maybe part of the reason why the American attempts at colonizing are failing now also lies in the American unwillingness to interact with Islamic cultures as a whole.



Nao Nomura
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Re: It`s all about Disneyland (not the oil)
on: October 19, 2013, 11:04

Japan was "given" democracy after WWII with the new constitution that includes the war-renouncing Article 9. Now the new government with the right-wing prime minister is trying to revise to fulfill its obligations to collective security. Is that part of a process of "Americanization" or "globalization" to exercise military power to collective security and democracy, perhaps?



Brian-
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Re: It`s all about Disneyland (not the oil)
on: October 21, 2013, 05:24

My apologies for the late reply—I got so absorbed in the (interesting) posts of others that I forgot my own! Many thanks to you, Geoff, by the way, for creating such a valuable and timely site.

AnyaH-vdL: I would agree that Disneyland - and the way of life it stands for - feels like a fate, but it certainly is also entirely unreal, a self-perpetuating, contentless image - a simulacrum, as Baudrillard has argued. Maybe that's what makes it so compelling and also much harder to sell to any culture with a strong moral belief system (like Islam).

Yes, exactly. This is the real threat, and combating this is the hardest thing. In the words of Heidegger, ‘Only a God can save us now.’
But this seems to fly a little in the face of your next point...

AnyaH-vdL: I'd agree that we are all adopting the outward signs of American culture, however, does that really mean "becoming American"?

For me, largely yes, because for me there are no inward signs of American culture, except the progressive and largely imperceptible annihilation of the inward, altogether, like those horrific bacterial infections that turn organs—here spiritual organs—into mush.
It’s a culture of annihilating surface—a bacterial culture.

AnyaH-vdL: And if so, what does becoming American mean? To me, what you describe sounds like a colonial effort.

No doubt, but the first colony colonized by this bacterial culture, as Wyatt suggested elsewhere, was America itself, and (some) Americans have been its loudest (and most hopeless) critics.
Thoreau was maybe the first to sense its morbid effect, but America was still young and strong then, and the bacteria hates fresh air and open spaces, preferring the climate-controlled atmosphere of malls and cineplexes. The first real alarms came from Europe, which, having spawned the Church of America, was now facing an almost Biblical retribution. Consider Nietzsche’s Philippics against colonization by the old-world’s America, that “nation of shopkeepers” with their “flat-headed utilitarianism”; or a half-century later, when the struggle against the disease was already being lost, in Rilke: “Now, from America, empty indifferent things are pouring across, sham things, dummy life”.

The astonishing rapidity and seeming implacability of that colonization of Europe—though aided, of course, by Europe’s own suicidal stupidity in the first half of that century—is why, for all my abhorrence of the injustices typical of the authoritarianism being feared in the ‘fiscal failure’ thread, this, for me, is the greatest, most real and present danger; since, especially with the dizzying proliferation of i-technologies, the immune system must be very strong indeed to resist such a disease, immune systems are slow-growing organic things, and most importantly, as Wyatt memorably notes, ‘no one comes back from Disneyland.’

AnyaH-vdL: However, in colonial and postcolonial cultures the colonized also have an effect on the colonizers (to find an image for this within your Disneyland metaphor: there is a replica of the German castle of Neuschwanstein in Disneyland).

But thanks to America, there is now a replica in Neuschwanstein, too.
Euro Disney is just a feint, to make Europeans feel ‘deep’.

AnyaH-vdL: So, maybe part of the reason why the American attempts at colonizing are failing now also lies in the American unwillingness to interact with Islamic cultures as a whole.

The key here lies in the 'interact', I think.
The bacteria's usual line of assault, unforgettably demonstrated in the Cold War--or better, Warm War--victory over communism, is a delicate and dynamic mix of 'hard lines and soft drugs'; in the model case, ‘sanctions + MTV’. This is why it was so gratifying for the Americans to (apparently--but who cares, it's good cinema!) find pornography in Bin Laden's bedroom (though what he does there is, of course, 'none of our business').
And so the Russians banned their science fiction of alternate worlds, blocked their internet, sent tanks into their Tiananmen Square, and rolled along as a seemingly unstoppable authoritarian juggernaut, until they didn't anymore.
Oops.



Brian-
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Re: It`s all about Disneyland (not the oil)
on: October 21, 2013, 05:58

Quote from Nao Nomura on October 19, 2013, 11:04
Japan was "given" democracy after WWII with the new constitution that includes the war-renouncing Article 9. Now the new government with the right-wing prime minister is trying to revise to fulfill its obligations to collective security. Is that part of a process of "Americanization" or "globalization" to exercise military power to collective security and democracy, perhaps?

My apologies here also, Nao, and thanks for the interesting observation.
I would say both: globalization in act, Americanization in effect.
The first seems obvious; the second emerges more when we ask the question: 'What are they protecting?'
For me the answer, if you'll forgive me referencing myself, is in the 'fiscal failure' and 'America is dead!' threads. In sum: the 'welfare of their people' and of the 'global village'; and these, for me, are looking more American by the megabyte (I was going to say, 'by the day', but my friendships are in Canada, I live in the Ukraine, and I work in Japan, so I don't live 'by the day' anymore; though sometimes I remember what a day was like).



superfly
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Re: It`s all about Disneyland (not the oil)
on: April 5, 2016, 03:05

Right off the bat: I’m not too crazy about the Disneyland analogy. I’d really like to visit someday and comparing it to American standards and values is not compelling me to make the trip any quicker. On a more serious note, I completely disagree with the analogy that America is a surgeon with a limited amount of livers to transplant. Instead, I’d like to offer the idea that America is the phony doctor, whom after disarming a patient (whom, by the way, didn’t need an amputation in the first place), forcefully rebuilds its disarmed parts and basks under the glory of the title of “hero” and “saviour.” American politicians from H.W. Bush, George W. Bush, to Obama are not doing Muslim nations, or any for that matter, favours by invading countries, bombing and destroying civilian lives, and then “rebuilding” them in the name of peace-keeping (missions).

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