American hedonism closes its eyes to death, and has been
incapable of exorcising the destructive power of the moment
with a wisdom like that of the Epicureans of antiquity.

- Octavio Paz
Death is un-American, and an affront to every citizen's inalienable
right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

- Arnold Toynbee
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"As long as such self-serving hypocrisy
motivates America's response, Ukraine will
only sink further into needless bloodshed,
and that blood will be on America's head."
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In America everybody is of the opinion that he has no social superiors,
since all men are equal, but he does not admit that he has no social inferiors,
for, from the time of Jefferson onward, the doctrine that all men are equal
applies only upwards, not downwards.

― Bertrand Russell
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"What those 'racists' are reflexively and rightly reacting
to is the soulless chill as the fire goes out beneath the
melting pot. Those who think America can thrive as a
'cultural mosaic' are worse than fools; they're Canadians."

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Kim Jong-un and Dennis Rodman
Kim Jong-un and Dennis Rodman
"[Dennis Rodman's trip to North Korea] struck
me as uncannily symbolic of, if I may speak
broadly and loosely, the best and worst
of the 'American character abroad.'"

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Kim Jong-un and Dennis Rodman
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"But where, I wonder, is Obama's hard choice, in this his
now sixth year of leadership? Where is his defining decision,
against the grain, made solely because it seemed right?
Drone strikes in Yemen?"

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Two centuries ago, a former European colony decided to catch up with Europe.
It succeeded so well that the United States of America became a monster,
in which the taints, the sickness and the inhumanity of Europe
have grown to appalling dimensions.

― Frantz Fanon
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"We feel better living in a world with privacy, with intimate, unmonitored communication when desired. Those values mean something to us, and give our lives dignity and humanity."
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What the United States does best is understand itself.
What it does worst is understand others.

- Carlos Fuentes
Poor Mexico, so far from God
and so close to the United States.

- Porfirio Diaz
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"Indeed, everything about the American southland was magical
and exotic to the young Canadian musicians, from the sights
and smells to the drawling manner of speech to, especially, the
central role that music played in people’s everyday lives."

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America is a mistake, a giant mistake.
- Sigmund Freud
America is an adorable woman chewing tobacco.
- Auguste Bartholdi
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"This is the tone of the China Century, a subtle
mix of Nazi/Soviet bravado and 'oriental'
cunning -- easily misunderstood, and
never
heard before, in a real enemy, by the West."

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Coke and 'America the Beautiful'
Coke and 'America the Beautiful'
"And for the others who argued for English-only
patriotism, I note that there are more than
57 million Americans (about 20% of the nation)
whose first-language is not English...."

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"This is the behavior, and the fate, of paranoid
old-world tyrants like Hitler or Saddam, not liberal new-world democracies like America pretends to be."

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America is the only nation in history which
miraculously has gone directly from barbarism to
degeneration without the usual interval of civilization.

- Georges Clemenceau
I found there a country with thirty-two religions and only one sauce.
- Charles–Maurice Talleyrand
A people who are still, as it were, but in the gristle,
and not yet hardened into the bone of manhood.

- Edmund Burke
America is the only country ever founded on the printed word.
- Marshall McLuhan
"The removal of racist sports nicknames (and mascots) seems outrageously belated
-- why, exactly, has this civil rights cause
taken so long to gain momentum?"

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The atom bomb is a paper tiger which the
United States reactionaries use to scare people.
It looks terrible, but in fact it isn't.

- Mao Tse-tung
They made us many promises, more than I can remember, but
they kept only one; they promised to take our land, and they did.

- Red Cloud
In America sex is an obsession,
in other parts of the world it is a fact.

- Marlene Dietrich
I would rather have a nod from an American,
than a snuff-box from an emperor.

- Lord Byron
One day the United States discovered it was an empire.
But it didn’t know what an empire was.
It thought that an empire was merely the biggest of all corporations.

- Roberto Calasso
"For all the good things he did and tried to do, in a way, for me, Mandela's greatness lay more in what he did not do. And this, I think, is his greatest lesson for America."
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Americans are so enamored of equality, they would rather
be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

- Alexis de Tocqueville
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"No one, I thought, could watch those scenes, of young children slaughtered en masse, and so many parents grieving, without thinking that this, finally, would tip some kind of balance in the country."
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If you are prepared to accept the consequences of your dreams
then you must still regard America today with the same naive
enthusiasm as the generations that discovered the New World.

- Jean Baudrillard
I am willing to love all mankind, except an American.
- Samuel Johnson
America, thou half brother of the world;
With something good and bad of every land.

- Philip Bailey
"What can be more powerful than disinformation in the Information Age?"
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England and America are two countries separated by the same language.
- Sir Walter Besant
Christopher Columbus, as everyone knows, is honored by
posterity because he was the last to discover America.

- James Joyce
Now, from America, empty indifferent things
are pouring across, sham things, dummy life.

- Rainer Maria Rilke
If the United States is to recover fortitude and lucidity,
it must recover itself, and to recover itself it must
recover the "others"- the outcasts of the Western world.
- Octavio Paz
The youth of America is their oldest tradition.
It has been going on now for three hundred years.

- Oscar Wilde
"America really is, for most Americans, all things considered, a good place to be, and all they really want is for everyone to enjoy the same privilege and pleasure."
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When good Americans die they go to Paris;
when bad Americans die they go to America.

- Oscar Wilde
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They're nothing more than traffickers; and as the smart traffickers'll tell you, you don't use the merchandise. They are just inoculating their kids with a tech-drug serum, to immunize them against the very merchandise that put the **** bowling alley in their basement.
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America is therefore the land of the future, where, in the ages that
lie before us, the burden of the World's History shall reveal itself.

- Georg Friedrich Hegel
America is a large, friendly dog in a very small room.
Every time it wags its tail, it knocks over a chair.

- Arnold Toynbee
Americans always try to do the right thing after they've tried everything else.
- Winston Churchill
The thing that impresses me most about Americans
is the way parents obey their children.

- Edward, Duke of Windsor
Americans are apt to be unduly interested in discovering
what average opinion believes average opinion to be.

- John Maynard Keynes
Europe was created by history.
America was created by philosophy.

- Margaret Thatcher
America is God's crucible, the great Melting-Pot where all the races of
Europe are melting and reforming!... The real American has not yet arrived.
He is only in the crucible, I tell you - he will be the fusion of all races.

- Israel Zangwill
American dreams are strongest in the hearts of those
who have seen America only in their dreams.

- Pico Iyer
America: It's like Britain, only with buttons.
- Ringo Starr
The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer.
It has never yet melted.

― D.H. Lawrence
I have two conflicting visions of America.
One is a kind of dream landscape and the other is a kind of black comedy.

― Bono
The American mirror, said the voice, the sad American mirror
of wealth and poverty and constant useless metamorphosis,
the mirror that sails and whose sails are pain.

― Roberto Bolaño

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Alex Wang
Experienced Their American
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Alex Wang
China`s America 2013
on: December 26, 2013, 00:09

A big clear window on China's America, from China's Pravda:
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2013-12/25/c_132994989.htm
Note the (now) "old flashpoint issues" of human rights and Taiwan, the 'two equals' posture, and the fine balance of "what--we worry?" and menacing threat, just as Ai says.
This is the tone of the China Century, a subtle mix of Nazi/Soviet bravado and 'oriental' cunning--easily misunderstood, and never heard before, in a real enemy, by the West.
Take off your headset, America, and listen well!



jennyl
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Posts: 1
jennyl
Re: China`s America 2013
on: January 15, 2014, 08:10

I don't see any special "bravado" or "cunning" in this statement. At least not more than America, when it has the same message to send. China is simply showing that it knows the hypocrisy in America's positions, and that it will answer respect with respect, or not at all.
When Daly says "it remains to be seen if they are willing to adjust their policies, goals and behaviors" for the sake of mutual good relations, he knows that the greater adjustment must be America's, since it is she who must adapt to a new equal in China. China, and the world, has been "adjusting" to America for a long time. Now it is America's turn.



Alex Wang
Experienced Their American
Posts: 14
Alex Wang
Re: China`s America 2013
on: February 6, 2014, 20:31

Tell me, does this:

"Washington has to understand that Beijing has the right to grow its national defense capacity in accordance with its own legitimate demands to protect national interests.

China has also assured the world repeatedly that it will use its power in a peaceful and responsible way. Therefore, demagogues should stop making a fuss over China's military development that is purely defensive in nature."

not remind you of anyone back in the 20th century, in the early '30's for example?



Gao Xue
Novice Their American
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Gao Xue
Re: China`s America 2013
on: February 17, 2014, 10:27

It is certainly odd how the author changes tone so abruptly when talking about the ADIZ, but we must remember that this is written in English, not Chinese, and subtle things like tone and implication are very easily lost over such a distance. China must learn to speak the language of a superpower, and here in a foreign tongue.



Wendy H
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Wendy H
Re: China`s America 2013
on: March 15, 2014, 17:39

The Asian Century Institute has just published an interesting report on "America's Chinese Dream," which I thought I'd share...

AMERICA'S CHINESE DREAM
The US economy is wobbling slowly forward. Europe is just plain wobbling. And China has moved onto a slower growth path.

But China's role in the global economy is also changing fundamentally, providing America with new growth opportunities, a "Chinese dream".

Over the past decade, China has emerged as a major international investor. China's outward investment grew on average 35% a year from 2005-2012. And with investment of $112 billion in 2012, this makes it the world's third largest investing nation after the US and Japan (excluding tax havens).

In the early stages, China's investment was led by state-owned enterprises, and concentrated in the resources sector. China's three state-owned oil firms -- China National Offshore Oil Company (CNOOC), Sinopec and the China National Petroleum Corporation (CNPC) accounted for about one-quarter of China's outward investment by value from 2005-2012. Australia has been the largest national recipient of Chinese investment, just ahead of the US. Africa and Latin America have been important investment destinations too.

But the nature of China's outward investment is now changing. Private enterprises, rather than state-owned enterprises, are now playing a growing role. They are motivated more by tapping new markets, and acquiring new brands and technology, rather than natural resources.

The US has risen to the top of the list as the most attractive investment destination for such Chinese outward investment, despite concerns about protectionism in American markets, according to a recent report by the Economist Intelligence Unit.

http://asiancenturyinstitute.com/international/237-america-s-chinese-dream



Alex Wang
Experienced Their American
Posts: 14
Alex Wang
Re: China`s America 2013
on: March 31, 2014, 20:37

What do you do when you have more American money than America?
Flood the market with it and you only hurt yourself.
Beef up production and try to sell to America, and it throws up barriers to 'protect' itself (from itself).
So, do what America has always done to others who were trying to protect themselves: buy America.
Make it a branch plant economy, with headquarters in Beijing.

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