American hedonism closes its eyes to death, and has been
incapable of exorcising the destructive power of the moment
with a wisdom like that of the Epicureans of antiquity.

- Octavio Paz
Death is un-American, and an affront to every citizen's inalienable
right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

- Arnold Toynbee
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"As long as such self-serving hypocrisy
motivates America's response, Ukraine will
only sink further into needless bloodshed,
and that blood will be on America's head."
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In America everybody is of the opinion that he has no social superiors,
since all men are equal, but he does not admit that he has no social inferiors,
for, from the time of Jefferson onward, the doctrine that all men are equal
applies only upwards, not downwards.

― Bertrand Russell
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"What those 'racists' are reflexively and rightly reacting
to is the soulless chill as the fire goes out beneath the
melting pot. Those who think America can thrive as a
'cultural mosaic' are worse than fools; they're Canadians."

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Two centuries ago, a former European colony decided to catch up with Europe.
It succeeded so well that the United States of America became a monster,
in which the taints, the sickness and the inhumanity of Europe
have grown to appalling dimensions.

― Frantz Fanon
What the United States does best is understand itself.
What it does worst is understand others.

- Carlos Fuentes
Poor Mexico, so far from God
and so close to the United States.

- Porfirio Diaz
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"Indeed, everything about the American southland was magical
and exotic to the young Canadian musicians, from the sights
and smells to the drawling manner of speech to, especially, the
central role that music played in people’s everyday lives."

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America is a mistake, a giant mistake.
- Sigmund Freud
America is an adorable woman chewing tobacco.
- Auguste Bartholdi
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"This is the tone of the China Century, a subtle
mix of Nazi/Soviet bravado and 'oriental'
cunning -- easily misunderstood, and
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heard before, in a real enemy, by the West."

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"And for the others who argued for English-only
patriotism, I note that there are more than
57 million Americans (about 20% of the nation)
whose first-language is not English...."

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"This is the behavior, and the fate, of paranoid
old-world tyrants like Hitler or Saddam, not liberal new-world democracies like America pretends to be."

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America is the only nation in history which
miraculously has gone directly from barbarism to
degeneration without the usual interval of civilization.

- Georges Clemenceau
I found there a country with thirty-two religions and only one sauce.
- Charles–Maurice Talleyrand
A people who are still, as it were, but in the gristle,
and not yet hardened into the bone of manhood.

- Edmund Burke
America is the only country ever founded on the printed word.
- Marshall McLuhan
"The removal of racist sports nicknames (and mascots) seems outrageously belated
-- why, exactly, has this civil rights cause
taken so long to gain momentum?"

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The atom bomb is a paper tiger which the
United States reactionaries use to scare people.
It looks terrible, but in fact it isn't.

- Mao Tse-tung
They made us many promises, more than I can remember, but
they kept only one; they promised to take our land, and they did.

- Red Cloud
In America sex is an obsession,
in other parts of the world it is a fact.

- Marlene Dietrich
I would rather have a nod from an American,
than a snuff-box from an emperor.

- Lord Byron
One day the United States discovered it was an empire.
But it didn’t know what an empire was.
It thought that an empire was merely the biggest of all corporations.

- Roberto Calasso
Americans are so enamored of equality, they would rather
be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

- Alexis de Tocqueville
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"No one, I thought, could watch those scenes, of young children slaughtered en masse, and so many parents grieving, without thinking that this, finally, would tip some kind of balance in the country."
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If you are prepared to accept the consequences of your dreams
then you must still regard America today with the same naive
enthusiasm as the generations that discovered the New World.

- Jean Baudrillard
I am willing to love all mankind, except an American.
- Samuel Johnson
America, thou half brother of the world;
With something good and bad of every land.

- Philip Bailey
"What can be more powerful than disinformation in the Information Age?"
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England and America are two countries separated by the same language.
- Sir Walter Besant
Christopher Columbus, as everyone knows, is honored by
posterity because he was the last to discover America.

- James Joyce
Now, from America, empty indifferent things
are pouring across, sham things, dummy life.

- Rainer Maria Rilke
If the United States is to recover fortitude and lucidity,
it must recover itself, and to recover itself it must
recover the "others"- the outcasts of the Western world.
- Octavio Paz
The youth of America is their oldest tradition.
It has been going on now for three hundred years.

- Oscar Wilde
"America really is, for most Americans, all things considered, a good place to be, and all they really want is for everyone to enjoy the same privilege and pleasure."
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When good Americans die they go to Paris;
when bad Americans die they go to America.

- Oscar Wilde
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America is therefore the land of the future, where, in the ages that
lie before us, the burden of the World's History shall reveal itself.

- Georg Friedrich Hegel
America is a large, friendly dog in a very small room.
Every time it wags its tail, it knocks over a chair.

- Arnold Toynbee
Americans always try to do the right thing after they've tried everything else.
- Winston Churchill
The thing that impresses me most about Americans
is the way parents obey their children.

- Edward, Duke of Windsor
Americans are apt to be unduly interested in discovering
what average opinion believes average opinion to be.

- John Maynard Keynes
Europe was created by history.
America was created by philosophy.

- Margaret Thatcher
America is God's crucible, the great Melting-Pot where all the races of
Europe are melting and reforming!... The real American has not yet arrived.
He is only in the crucible, I tell you - he will be the fusion of all races.

- Israel Zangwill
American dreams are strongest in the hearts of those
who have seen America only in their dreams.

- Pico Iyer
America: It's like Britain, only with buttons.
- Ringo Starr
The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer.
It has never yet melted.

― D.H. Lawrence
I have two conflicting visions of America.
One is a kind of dream landscape and the other is a kind of black comedy.

― Bono
The American mirror, said the voice, the sad American mirror
of wealth and poverty and constant useless metamorphosis,
the mirror that sails and whose sails are pain.

― Roberto Bolaño

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Social Media is Mind Control??
on: March 12, 2017, 10:14

I don't know about you, but in the good old days of social media, sites like Facebook, Twitter, and Tumblr were places where one could go to peacefully enjoy one's interests, like cute pics of cats. Panem et circenses, sure but it was a blissful, mindless escape from the harsh realities of day to day life and of course, the news cycle, that harbinger of bad news and impending doom. But now, one cannot escape in the internet without excessive, exhaustive filtering. I understand: Brexit, the Trump Administration. At least everything in beautiful Russia is ochen' schastliv. And yet, why does everything these days have to be political? Regardless of nationality, everyone these days is a political analyst, outspoken social justice activist, and/or witty satirical commentator upon every single issue. I for one miss the cat gifs. Can some good come out of this communal mind hive?? Sometimes this content can be sobering and enlightening: tweets out of war-devasted cities such as Aleppo showed the human plight of survivors. The #BlackLivesMatter movement rose out of coverage of the Ferguson riots and lead to discussions on police brutality. Though I felt the Women's March the day after the inauguration was pointless and exclusionary, many felt it was empowering. International political movements can arise from a hashtag, and strangers from all corners of the globe can connect. And it's not like I come from a country with heavy online censorship, but putting all one's personal information on the web seems unsafe.Not that I would know, but I hear some countries have, like, highly skilled hackers. Look at Eunice in Super Sad True Love Story- her whole life is literally in virtual space, making her highly vulnerable to men like Lenny and Josh. Furthermore, Lenny himself is preyed upon by a unknown figure posing as his childhood friend who extracts information from him under this guise. And he is fairly reclusive compared to the other characters in the novel. My point is this: how should we engage with social media in this era of oversharing and over-opinionating? Can our thoughts ever be are own when we are constantly being told what to think?



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Re: Social Media is Mind Control??
on: March 29, 2017, 19:38

First of all, I love your post. You make an excellent point about the "hive mind" present in the modern day, especially due to the saturation of social media and the internet available on every single device, every moment of every day. I wanted to address your main questions with my own answers/opinions and then make a final point, so here we go.

1. Can some good come out of this communal mind hive?
I believe the communal mind hive, as you put it, can be good and bad. I think social media is way too changing and malleable an animal to assign "good" or "bad" to it. As you said, #BlackLivesMatter and tweets from Aleppo were borne from social media, but so were a lot of hate groups gaining followers, and, the most annoying to me personally, political clickbait that is either improperly sourced or based on an author's opinion stated like fact. I think that in order to successfully navigate social media and not become too ensconced in the political brothel that is the world wide web nowadays, you must remember to fact-check everything that is important to you and filter, filter, filter. In relation to globalization, social media is mostly good; we have an awareness of other cultures, other news outlets besides our own local/national ones, and the ability to reach out to other cultures to support and engage them in a healthy and respectful way. This, like everything else on the internet, goes both ways, but I'll cautiously assign a "good" to social media re: globalization.

2. How should we engage with social media in this era of oversharing and over-opinionating?
I agree with you that sharing every moment of your life online is not particularly safe (or necessary). For this reason, I personally don't share much and I definitely don't post photos of my underage niece and nephews, etc. I think limited engagement is probably the best way to go about sharing on social media; again, it changes from person to person, the many-headed beast that is social media can be used by different people for different means, but sharing intensely personal problems with the world on Facebook, Twitter etc. is potentially inappropriate but also a symptom of our technologically advanced world. However, again, on the other hand, in relation to globalization it might be a sobering thing to share our woes online: the tweets from Aleppo alerted me personally to how bad the situation is in Syria, tweets from France alerted me to the most recent terrorist attacks, and Facebook suggests international news that might interest me. The good and the bad are mixed, as always.

3. Can our thoughts ever be our own when we are constantly being told what to think?
This goes back to what I said about fact-checking. I've learned the hard way that my peers online are too quick to read a headline and become experts on a subject, regardless of who wrote it, when, and for which publication. I google, wikipedia, etc. anything I see - I am, for example, not a Trump supporter, but when a claim is made online about his spending, his vacations, his misogyny, etc. I have googled other sources and fact-checked media claims so I know I'm not bias. I feel like this practice is unfortunately not standard for all social-media users, but I encourage everyone to do so and I hope that movement gains power as more and more people realize that BuzzFeed News may not be the most reliable source for information.

I just wanted to add that I didn't think the Women's March was exclusive at all, nor was it pointless. Many men attended the march and supported the aims, and as for pointlessness ... I shared a social media post about this, because on Facebook the live feed of the march had people commenting saying things like "get back in the kitchen," and that, my friend, is why we need to march - ALL of us, not just women.

Thanks for an interesting post and a great one to reply to!



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Re: Social Media is Mind Control??
on: April 4, 2017, 00:50

I have to say I agree with the topics that have been brought up. So much of what we view online nowadays seems to always in some fashion revert to a discussion-more often than not an argument- about politics or someone's opinions. My experience with Facebook lately has been horrible with this type of behavior. I watched a damn link for a future movie and in the comment section there was a raging debate about trump, another one about immigrants, and even one on female rights.

While these are all important topics and should be discussed the way people are going about it on the internet is just mind boggling. While I agree that the idea of a 'hive mind' can carry both good or bad qualities I have to disagree to the scale in which the hive mind is in reality. I agree that there are instances where we are being told what to think but in the cases of political discussions in media sites like Facebook and Twitter you have to remember that there are millions of people with active accounts in these sites. Is it really hard to believe that there are individuals who share the same opinions with numbers like that? I find that perhaps what's wrong is the lack of accurate information. Like rachelstri-nger said you have to filter filter filter. Obviously if you have to filter that much information then there's something wrong. Media should have oversight in how much crap they can spew without fact checking. But i don't think that will be possible. while i don't believe that the hive mind is as prevalent as you guys have stated it is still there to some extent. We are influenced by what we see and hear after all and so I wonder, is it right to blame the media for telling us what to think, when we accept what the media tells us?



JasminaK
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Re: Social Media is Mind Control??
on: April 13, 2017, 15:57

I've avoided social media ever since I can remember. For a sophomore in college it should be something I'm happy about and not something I stay away from. At least that's what my friends tell me. I'm quite disappointed that this seems to be the most prevalent way of communicating and sharing your passions. What surprises me is the shift social media took with regard to its function. Instead of keeping in touch with people you rarely see, you "keep in touch" with people you don't even know.
Seeing people stress about how many likes they'll receive and watching their endless attempts to take the perfect selfie is alien to me, something I never understood. The posts that are being "liked" concern me. Pictures of teenagers with barely any clothes on, drunken parties, excessive spending and making fun of people are only a few that make the list of "top likes". People competing who will ruin their liver faster seems to be more popular than sharing awareness for important causes (for example animal cruelty, violence).
It seems social media is designed to control us, to make us oblivious to the real problems that need discussion. Writer Matt Haig makes a good point, saying: "How do you get [people] to watch a TV show? By making them worry about missing out. How do you get them to buy a new smartphone? By making them feel like they are being left behind." It's the same with Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat. In a world where everyone is obsessed with posting their daily lives, you can easily feel like an outcast for not doing so.
While I'm proud of not using social media, many people tried to make me feel otherwise. And that is probably the most disappointing thing: being considered boring because you choose not to display your daily life routine to people who are not interested in what you do or what you are passionate about, but are just curious. There is no better way to disconnect people than by making them feel like they are connected to the world, which, in this case, is an abstract one anyway.

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