American hedonism closes its eyes to death, and has been
incapable of exorcising the destructive power of the moment
with a wisdom like that of the Epicureans of antiquity.

- Octavio Paz
Death is un-American, and an affront to every citizen's inalienable
right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

- Arnold Toynbee
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"As long as such self-serving hypocrisy
motivates America's response, Ukraine will
only sink further into needless bloodshed,
and that blood will be on America's head."
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In America everybody is of the opinion that he has no social superiors,
since all men are equal, but he does not admit that he has no social inferiors,
for, from the time of Jefferson onward, the doctrine that all men are equal
applies only upwards, not downwards.

― Bertrand Russell
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"What those 'racists' are reflexively and rightly reacting
to is the soulless chill as the fire goes out beneath the
melting pot. Those who think America can thrive as a
'cultural mosaic' are worse than fools; they're Canadians."

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Two centuries ago, a former European colony decided to catch up with Europe.
It succeeded so well that the United States of America became a monster,
in which the taints, the sickness and the inhumanity of Europe
have grown to appalling dimensions.

― Frantz Fanon
What the United States does best is understand itself.
What it does worst is understand others.

- Carlos Fuentes
Poor Mexico, so far from God
and so close to the United States.

- Porfirio Diaz
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"Indeed, everything about the American southland was magical
and exotic to the young Canadian musicians, from the sights
and smells to the drawling manner of speech to, especially, the
central role that music played in people’s everyday lives."

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America is a mistake, a giant mistake.
- Sigmund Freud
America is an adorable woman chewing tobacco.
- Auguste Bartholdi
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"This is the tone of the China Century, a subtle
mix of Nazi/Soviet bravado and 'oriental'
cunning -- easily misunderstood, and
never
heard before, in a real enemy, by the West."

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"And for the others who argued for English-only
patriotism, I note that there are more than
57 million Americans (about 20% of the nation)
whose first-language is not English...."

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"This is the behavior, and the fate, of paranoid
old-world tyrants like Hitler or Saddam, not liberal new-world democracies like America pretends to be."

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America is the only nation in history which
miraculously has gone directly from barbarism to
degeneration without the usual interval of civilization.

- Georges Clemenceau
I found there a country with thirty-two religions and only one sauce.
- Charles–Maurice Talleyrand
A people who are still, as it were, but in the gristle,
and not yet hardened into the bone of manhood.

- Edmund Burke
America is the only country ever founded on the printed word.
- Marshall McLuhan
"The removal of racist sports nicknames (and mascots) seems outrageously belated
-- why, exactly, has this civil rights cause
taken so long to gain momentum?"

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The atom bomb is a paper tiger which the
United States reactionaries use to scare people.
It looks terrible, but in fact it isn't.

- Mao Tse-tung
They made us many promises, more than I can remember, but
they kept only one; they promised to take our land, and they did.

- Red Cloud
In America sex is an obsession,
in other parts of the world it is a fact.

- Marlene Dietrich
I would rather have a nod from an American,
than a snuff-box from an emperor.

- Lord Byron
One day the United States discovered it was an empire.
But it didn’t know what an empire was.
It thought that an empire was merely the biggest of all corporations.

- Roberto Calasso
Americans are so enamored of equality, they would rather
be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

- Alexis de Tocqueville
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"No one, I thought, could watch those scenes, of young children slaughtered en masse, and so many parents grieving, without thinking that this, finally, would tip some kind of balance in the country."
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If you are prepared to accept the consequences of your dreams
then you must still regard America today with the same naive
enthusiasm as the generations that discovered the New World.

- Jean Baudrillard
I am willing to love all mankind, except an American.
- Samuel Johnson
America, thou half brother of the world;
With something good and bad of every land.

- Philip Bailey
"What can be more powerful than disinformation in the Information Age?"
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England and America are two countries separated by the same language.
- Sir Walter Besant
Christopher Columbus, as everyone knows, is honored by
posterity because he was the last to discover America.

- James Joyce
Now, from America, empty indifferent things
are pouring across, sham things, dummy life.

- Rainer Maria Rilke
If the United States is to recover fortitude and lucidity,
it must recover itself, and to recover itself it must
recover the "others"- the outcasts of the Western world.
- Octavio Paz
The youth of America is their oldest tradition.
It has been going on now for three hundred years.

- Oscar Wilde
"America really is, for most Americans, all things considered, a good place to be, and all they really want is for everyone to enjoy the same privilege and pleasure."
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America is therefore the land of the future, where, in the ages that
lie before us, the burden of the World's History shall reveal itself.

- Georg Friedrich Hegel
America is a large, friendly dog in a very small room.
Every time it wags its tail, it knocks over a chair.

- Arnold Toynbee
Americans always try to do the right thing after they've tried everything else.
- Winston Churchill
The thing that impresses me most about Americans
is the way parents obey their children.

- Edward, Duke of Windsor
Americans are apt to be unduly interested in discovering
what average opinion believes average opinion to be.

- John Maynard Keynes
Europe was created by history.
America was created by philosophy.

- Margaret Thatcher
America is God's crucible, the great Melting-Pot where all the races of
Europe are melting and reforming!... The real American has not yet arrived.
He is only in the crucible, I tell you - he will be the fusion of all races.

- Israel Zangwill
American dreams are strongest in the hearts of those
who have seen America only in their dreams.

- Pico Iyer
America: It's like Britain, only with buttons.
- Ringo Starr
The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer.
It has never yet melted.

― D.H. Lawrence
I have two conflicting visions of America.
One is a kind of dream landscape and the other is a kind of black comedy.

― Bono
The American mirror, said the voice, the sad American mirror
of wealth and poverty and constant useless metamorphosis,
the mirror that sails and whose sails are pain.

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skylerlee
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Canada Making Amends
on: February 15, 2017, 14:42

I came across an article today titled Judge rules in favour of Indigenous survivors of Sixties Scoop and it made me think about the discussion we had about culture-crossing yesterday in class. We were acknowledging that when any two cultures meet they will take parts of each other and put them into practice, we also discussed the suffocating effect that western culture seems to have on all other cultures.
Since colonialism we can obviously see that western cultures have adapted little bits and pieces of the other cultures they have come into contact with, however the cultures that have come into contact with western culture have not had the luxury of picking and choosing which aspects they'd like to develop on and which aspects they are better off without. One of the biggest, and perhaps most recent, example of this would be the residential schools in Canada, and across North America.
This article focuses on the Sixties Scoop and a ruling a judge has made that "has found that the federal government failed to prevent on-reserve children from losing their Indigenous identity after they were forcibly taken from their homes as part of what's known as the Sixties Scoop." (Tasker) As we have discussed throughout the year, Native American children were forced to assimilate into western culture and leave behind every aspect of their own cultures. The judge goes on to also explain that, "Canada breached its "duty of care" to the children, and ignored the damaging effects of the Ontario-led program." (Tasker)
This is an incredible leap forward on the part of the government for not only admitting to cultural wrong doing but also paying up for their mistakes, the plaintiff's have requested 1.3 Billion dollars as a settlement although it has yet to be discussed what the actual amount will be.



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Re: Canada Making Amends
on: February 25, 2017, 19:06

The wording of the judge's ruling in this article is very interesting, namely the statement "the federal government failed to prevent on-reserve children from losing their Indigenous identity" (Tasker). Based upon my understanding of what happened during those years, it was the INTENT of the government to strip these people of their identity. Native American children like Zitkala-Ša were denied their Native American identities from the moment they arrived at reservation schools, from the denial of their native languages to the shameful cutting of their hair. In addition, although Zitkala-Sa's mother was given a choice concerning whether to send her daughter to a reservation school, I learned in high school that other parents and children were not treated so graciously. So even the wording of the judge ruling on this case undermines the Native American experience of forced assimilation.
The comment one of the individuals made that "What we hear from a lot of the claimants is that it's not just about money. Money is important but getting their language and culture back, making sure their children will be able to speak the language, and getting their culture back, is so important" (Tasker) also caught my eye. Considering all of the money and effort the government obviously expended to assimilate these children in the first place, it surprises me that there isn't more of an active effort to make things right. Could they not financially support the establishment of schools run by Native Americans which re-introduce Native American culture to the people's children, just as they established schools which did the reverse? The government has already made concessions for Catholic schools and French-Immersion schools. And could the government also not only give money to those who have directly suffered from the "60's Scoop", but invest in programs which will help these people re-establish themselves and overcome their addictions and broken lifestyles? I get it that suffering is everywhere, and the government isn't financially capable of providing the supports that all the separate individuals in the country need, but it seems reasonable that if the government was the direct cause of a problem, they ought to be involved in trying to solve that problem and helping those they have harmed.



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on: February 28, 2017, 15:10

I really enjoyed reading this post and the article. The fact that the government is being held accountable is a big step forward in making amends with the wrongful treatment of Native American’s in our history. This was a very unfortunate time in our history and by having a judge rule in the favour of the Sixties Scoop, it shows that people are really listening to the treatment and concerns of Native Americans and clearly understanding that the government run programs were wrong and caused harm to many children and families.

RJansen, you bring up a great connection to Zitkala-Sa’s story that we read and discussed in class. In this story we get to learn about these schools through the eyes of the young students that were forced out of their homes and sent away. This story really brought the material to a different level because of the fact that you knew that it was based on a true story and we could get a first-hand ‘look’ at how children were treated and what they were forced to do.
I can completely understand the belief of the Sixties Scoop in regards to the statement outlining the fact that it isn’t about the money. They do not need the money but instead need their families back and need to retrieve their culture and language. It must be so difficult knowing that because of a decision made by the government that these people will never be the same as they were before. Like we saw in “The School Days of an Indian Girl” and “House Made of Dawn”, when you leave home, you also leave behind who you were. They are forced to assimilate to the life that the government wants them to live and they eventually lose all of their cultural aspects that were once so important to them and their family. There is no amount of money that will ever be able to repair the lose that the Native American’s have faced in the past, but the government can try and mend the situation by offering apologizes (and making it clear to the public what they did wrong) and doing good for the community in the future, but it will never excuse their past decisions or the horrible experiences that so many individuals were forced to endure.

In terms of the quote you brought up, JRansen, about the federal government “failing to prevent on-reserve children from losing their indigenous identity”, I agree with you. I can believe that the people who were carrying out the wishes of the government for this program did not know exactly what it was that they were doing to these children and instead thought that they were doing something good for the children, but I think they thought this way because that is exactly what the government was telling them. The government knew the entire time what they were doing and why. The whole intent of bringing children to these new school was to ensure that they would assimilate to the ‘traditional’ life that all other Canadians were living at the time. They wanted to make sure that the children lost all of their indigenous identities and it is important to note that this was not a mistake. It could not have been a mistake or a “failure” because it was the whole purpose of the program. The people running the schools were told that they were helping the children because the government wanted people to think that they were doing good, but really, they were ripping children away from their homes and their identities. It is a big step forward that the judge has ruled in their favour, but I think that it needs to be made clear that the government did not make a mistake and that they were completely at fault. You can’t say “sorry, but I didn’t actually do it”, they knew what they were doing and in order to move forward and ensure that we have a good relationship with the Native American community, the government needs to own their mistakes and state the truth to the situation and apologize for all of the harm that they did cause, not try to ‘beat around the bush’ and escape the consequences, or nothing will change.

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