American hedonism closes its eyes to death, and has been
incapable of exorcising the destructive power of the moment
with a wisdom like that of the Epicureans of antiquity.

- Octavio Paz
Death is un-American, and an affront to every citizen's inalienable
right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

- Arnold Toynbee
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"As long as such self-serving hypocrisy
motivates America's response, Ukraine will
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In America everybody is of the opinion that he has no social superiors,
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applies only upwards, not downwards.

― Bertrand Russell
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"What those 'racists' are reflexively and rightly reacting
to is the soulless chill as the fire goes out beneath the
melting pot. Those who think America can thrive as a
'cultural mosaic' are worse than fools; they're Canadians."

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Two centuries ago, a former European colony decided to catch up with Europe.
It succeeded so well that the United States of America became a monster,
in which the taints, the sickness and the inhumanity of Europe
have grown to appalling dimensions.

― Frantz Fanon
What the United States does best is understand itself.
What it does worst is understand others.

- Carlos Fuentes
Poor Mexico, so far from God
and so close to the United States.

- Porfirio Diaz
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"Indeed, everything about the American southland was magical
and exotic to the young Canadian musicians, from the sights
and smells to the drawling manner of speech to, especially, the
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America is a mistake, a giant mistake.
- Sigmund Freud
America is an adorable woman chewing tobacco.
- Auguste Bartholdi
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mix of Nazi/Soviet bravado and 'oriental'
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America is the only nation in history which
miraculously has gone directly from barbarism to
degeneration without the usual interval of civilization.

- Georges Clemenceau
I found there a country with thirty-two religions and only one sauce.
- Charles–Maurice Talleyrand
A people who are still, as it were, but in the gristle,
and not yet hardened into the bone of manhood.

- Edmund Burke
America is the only country ever founded on the printed word.
- Marshall McLuhan
"The removal of racist sports nicknames (and mascots) seems outrageously belated
-- why, exactly, has this civil rights cause
taken so long to gain momentum?"

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The atom bomb is a paper tiger which the
United States reactionaries use to scare people.
It looks terrible, but in fact it isn't.

- Mao Tse-tung
They made us many promises, more than I can remember, but
they kept only one; they promised to take our land, and they did.

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In America sex is an obsession,
in other parts of the world it is a fact.

- Marlene Dietrich
I would rather have a nod from an American,
than a snuff-box from an emperor.

- Lord Byron
One day the United States discovered it was an empire.
But it didn’t know what an empire was.
It thought that an empire was merely the biggest of all corporations.

- Roberto Calasso
Americans are so enamored of equality, they would rather
be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

- Alexis de Tocqueville
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then you must still regard America today with the same naive
enthusiasm as the generations that discovered the New World.

- Jean Baudrillard
I am willing to love all mankind, except an American.
- Samuel Johnson
America, thou half brother of the world;
With something good and bad of every land.

- Philip Bailey
"What can be more powerful than disinformation in the Information Age?"
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- Sir Walter Besant
Christopher Columbus, as everyone knows, is honored by
posterity because he was the last to discover America.

- James Joyce
Now, from America, empty indifferent things
are pouring across, sham things, dummy life.

- Rainer Maria Rilke
If the United States is to recover fortitude and lucidity,
it must recover itself, and to recover itself it must
recover the "others"- the outcasts of the Western world.
- Octavio Paz
The youth of America is their oldest tradition.
It has been going on now for three hundred years.

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America is therefore the land of the future, where, in the ages that
lie before us, the burden of the World's History shall reveal itself.

- Georg Friedrich Hegel
America is a large, friendly dog in a very small room.
Every time it wags its tail, it knocks over a chair.

- Arnold Toynbee
Americans always try to do the right thing after they've tried everything else.
- Winston Churchill
The thing that impresses me most about Americans
is the way parents obey their children.

- Edward, Duke of Windsor
Americans are apt to be unduly interested in discovering
what average opinion believes average opinion to be.

- John Maynard Keynes
Europe was created by history.
America was created by philosophy.

- Margaret Thatcher
America is God's crucible, the great Melting-Pot where all the races of
Europe are melting and reforming!... The real American has not yet arrived.
He is only in the crucible, I tell you - he will be the fusion of all races.

- Israel Zangwill
American dreams are strongest in the hearts of those
who have seen America only in their dreams.

- Pico Iyer
America: It's like Britain, only with buttons.
- Ringo Starr
The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer.
It has never yet melted.

― D.H. Lawrence
I have two conflicting visions of America.
One is a kind of dream landscape and the other is a kind of black comedy.

― Bono
The American mirror, said the voice, the sad American mirror
of wealth and poverty and constant useless metamorphosis,
the mirror that sails and whose sails are pain.

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rizwanzara
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Turning American Elections into the Joke it Really is
on: March 25, 2016, 18:42

I can say with certainty that if you've been keeping up with the American elections, you've come across a plethora of political memes. Some of the most popular ones include Bernie or Hillary and Ted Cruz is the Zodiac Killer. And of course, Donald Trump is so much of a joke that he has his own knowyourmeme page.

What interests me most is the effects of these memes beyond laughter. While Trump and Cruz are spewing racist and Islamophobic rhetoric, the internet creates these jokes. What does it do to our perception of these political figures? There is a possibility of Trump and/or Cruz winning and though I can't give an estimate of how likely it is, that doesn't change the fact that the possibility still exists. Turning these people into walking jokes might serve as a coping mechanism, so people won't have to think about the possibility of an America in which Trump wins. But is it really helping if it's humanizing figures like him? If we don't take them seriously, is that taking away their power or giving them even more influence?



LianaDavid
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Re: Turning American Elections into the Joke it Really is
on: March 28, 2016, 20:21

I think the problem with popularizing presidential candidates like Trump or Cruz through memes is that it informs and "educates" (for lack of a better word) voters - especially the younger voters - in the wrong sense. Yes, many of these memes seek to mock the presidential candidates, but it provides them with more publicity nonetheless. At this point in the race, people know far more about the candidates with more memes circulating the web, and the influence of this popular media exposure has been made quite clear with Trump's success in the polls especially. Furthermore, the ways in which presidential candidates react to the often harsh memes seem to increase their popularity. After all, many voters seek a solid backbone in their president. And to see someone like Donald Trump still cruising through the campaigning period even with all of the anti-Trump memes and other forms of social media suggests that he is gaining more momentum and power - which I'm sure both of which he is well aware.



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Re: Turning American Elections into the Joke it Really is
on: April 7, 2016, 13:19

Trump’s entire campaign reminds me of a warped and perverted reading of Ralph Waldo Emerson’s “Self-Reliance.”
After reading it again, these quotations stuck out to me:
• “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. With consistency a great soul has simply nothing to do. He may as well concern himself with his shadow on the wall. Speak what you think now in hard words, and to-morrow speak what to-morrow thinks in hard words again, though it contradict every thing you said to-day.”
• "Whoso would be a man must be a nonconformist."
• “Is it so bad, then, to be misunderstood? Pythagoras was misunderstood, and Socrates, and Jesus, and Luther, and Copernicus, and Galileo, and Newton, and every pure and wise spirit that ever took flesh. To be great is to be misunderstood.”
• “Trust thyself: every heart vibrates to that iron string.”
Trump’s fluidity has been recognized numerous times by the media. In regards to what he wants to do with the Islamic State, for example, he has changed his mind plenty of times. He is quoted to have said that he wants to send ground troops in because that is the only way to defeat them, then revised his statement to say that there were other ways, then gone back and said that ground troops is the only way. He is a walking contradiction, but he “trusts” himself implicitly to do what is right. He does not care if he is misunderstood and does not care for adhering to the typical, Republican mold. He is a version of Emerson’s self-reliant man. He genuinely believes what he says and does not care about offending anyone or being misunderstood. He believes that he is the best for the American people, and many American people believe him in return. Which is absolutely terrifying.
Connecting this back to memes, I have noticed that a lot of Trump-related memes seem to be in response to him changing his mind. These memes attempt to humourize his constantly edited statements, which, like the previous posters have said, only draws more attention to him. It baffles me that these memes are considered funny. It is actually terrifying how much support he is getting—especially from some younger voters who just think he is funny. His abrasive personality, I have noticed, also draws people to him. People praise him for being unafraid to say what he is really thinking, which some people claim is great because it means that he would be a transparent President. He does not care if he conforms to proper decorum and does not care if he is misunderstood—he says precisely what he wants. His thoughtlessness being praised is something that completely perplexes me. He is a racist, bigoted idiot who is being endorsed by a wide and diverse range of people for things that are actually scary for the future of America.



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Re: Turning American Elections into the Joke it Really is
on: April 7, 2016, 19:15

I completely agree with your point, Zara. I believe that these memes about the two republication front runners desensitizes people who are exposed to their hateful rhetoric. I myself treated Ted Cruz and Donald Trump as nothing more than a joke, but was alarmed to learn about the violence that breaks out at Trump rallies.

Cruz was recently interviewed by Jimmy Kimmel after making a comment about how he plans to patrol Muslim neighbourhoods: http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/30/politics/ted-cruz-muslim-neighborhoods/ and Jimmy Kimmel brought it up in a joking manner but the top Youtube comments talked more so about him being the Zodiac killer than his islamophobic views https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmI6JQz2M10.

I think that treating these presidential candidates as a joke does more harm then good, especially when considering the effect they have on the future of America. To joke about this situation is to completely disregard the fact that they pose a real threat to both the U.S. and to global politics. Half of what they're saying might be a joke, but poll numbers show that Trump and Cruz supporters really enjoy the punchline.



icedcoffee
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Re: Turning American Elections into the Joke it Really is
on: April 7, 2016, 21:20

Making memes or jokes out of presidents and presidential candidates is not particularly a new concept to the age of the internet. If you can recall, this sort of thing also happened around the times when Sarah Palin was a pitbull with lipstick and Mitt Romney had binders full of women. Nowadays, all people do is make light of the presidential campaigns because it is so absurdly important; for America and the rest of the world. President Obama himself has come to be one of the biggest memes around and has even been known to play along several times.

However, I also have to agree that this sort of lighthearted activity does not bode well for certain communities, especially Muslims. There seems to be a universally understood threat about Islam to American life. In Ted Cruz's recent win of the Wisconsin primary, he made a speech stating that everyone will be granted the right to their religious freedom but goes on to make his only mention of Muslims the radical Islamists of ISIS. (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video/ted-cruzs-victory-speech-wisconsin-38179409)

To answer the original question, I would not say that this surplus of memes humanizes the candidates but actually does the opposite. We see them as comedic figures and are less likely to take them as real people who are seriously competing against each other to run a country. Regardless, I will say that the memes are definitely giving presidential candidates more influence over audiences rather than taking their power away. This is because most Americans are partisan, not swing voters, and you know as they say, there is no such thing as bad publicity.
For example, the material spreading across the internet about Donald Trump who is known for his bigoted racism does not negatively affect the people voting for him- in fact, it boosts support because this is the kind of rhetoric that this type of crowd wants to hear. People who are aligned with Trump's views are not likely to change their vote by seeing memes that echo his speech.

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