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A Readers Lament Turned Critique
on: October 31, 2015, 18:30

I must admit, this is not my first encounter with Fitzgerald's classic novel "The Great Gatsby," and it will certainly not be the last. So you can imagine my frustration, after watching the cinematic adaption of this infamous novel and it's inconsistencies. This past week, en route to our 20th Century American Literature class, my friend and I began a heated discussion involving the cinematic adaptation of the novel. It has been some time since I've watched the movie, and I admit my memory is somewhat foggy. However, I was lamenting to her how, from my memory, I felt the movie inaccurately represented the book.

It wasn't until embarking on a critical analysis of the novel in class that I discovered from where my frustration stemmed. Dr. Hamilton explained that teachers and even reader's themselves, often gloss over the apparent gender, racist and capitalist themes that make this novel expand far beyond the genre of a classic American love story. At the core of our critique was the concept of racism. Essentially, we discussed how the novel seems to "white- wash" just about everything that is not considered "white." Dr. Hamilton discussed how jazz, a culture very prevalent during this time, and of the origins of African Americans, seems too, to be white washed in this novel. Ironically, earlier that day I was lamenting to my friend that at the core of my frustration was the cinematic adaptation's use of music. I found it intriguing that they used a modern soundtrack, but stayed true to the 1920's setting. Despite this, I felt their attempt to mix eras just completely failed to create the ambiance that I feel is central to the novel.

This lecture motivated me to do some research. I've attached a link to the soundtrack below. Looking at it, it's apparent that though it does feature black artists, the amount of white artists is staggering in comparison. I was shocked that even in an era much more advanced than Fitzgerald's, African artists are still a minority. What I found most intriguing is the second song titled, "Back to Black." Though I don't believe it was done intentionally, I can't help but find it rather ironic that in a novel with the tendency to "white wash" culture, and a cinematic production who followed similarly, such a song is a stark reminder of how little America has progressed.

My intention was not to belittle the cinematic production of this novel. Though I stand by my distaste for their use of new wave music paired with an old world setting, I was hoping to commend them for their racial progress. Instead, I found that the very few jazz songs on the soundtrack, "Love is the Drug" and "Where the Wind Blows" were again sung by predominantly white artists. And so, what originally was nothing more than a reader's lament on my part, ended up manifesting into a critique of America's racial progression. Perhaps, the more America changes, the more things seem to stay the same!

https://itunes.apple.com/ca/album/great-gatsby-music-from-baz/id635515681



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Re: A Readers Lament Turned Critique
on: November 13, 2015, 20:35

For curiosity's sake, I picked up the most recent movie and gave it a run-through after hearing from everybody I talked to that it had done the book a great injustice. So I entered the movie with expectations of having Fitzgerald's text absolutely butchered, and I was pleasantly surprised that the movie turned out as a much more truthful translation than I had been led to assume.

While I understand where the critiques from the movie come from, to an extent, I really believe this was a faithful adaptation to the book on some levels, but not all of them. When a movie studio goes about making a Great Gatsby movie, they set out to make a movie about extravagance, money, desire, unfulfilled longing. They did all of these things. What they did not capture was the subtle, ever so important intricacies of the novel: the racist undertones, the characterization of Wolfsheim, Nick's attraction to Jordan, the subtle hints at Nick's homosexuality. I think it would be difficult and rather clumsy to try and include all of these things without making a movie of tremendous length, and so instead, they picked a few of the obvious ideas and poured their effort into those.

The Great Gatsby movie was about modern, overly extravagant living. To capture this as much as they could, they tried to make the look and the sound reminiscent of 1920s jazz era, but mix it with as much of a modern party vibe as they could. The effect I got from this, not just in the music but in the visuals as well, was a sense of over saturation to the point of nausea. It felt numbing, almost dizzying to watch those grandiose party scenes, and in that I feel they've nailed the book perfectly. You're supposed to enjoy yourself during those scenes, but there is so much going on all at once, it's hard to take in.

And perhaps there is an irony about the extravagance of the party scenes as well. We discussed in class that Fitzgerald himself may have had this intention. There is such an indulgence in the glamour of the book/movie that it draws away attention from the important issues going on in the background (as you pointed out with the music, for example). It is a spectacle that draws people in, but it is a hollow entertainment that is only a distraction from what really matters, from what you really want from life, or what Gatsby really wants.

I think it is unreasonable for a movie to include absolutely everything the book has to offer, and for a novel like The Great Gatsby, the movies are only a supplement to the novel and not a replacement. Those who watch the movie and do not read the book know they have probably missed something important, and that they cannot replace reading the book with their experience of the movie. I do appreciate the movies attempt to capture as much of Fitzgerald's original imagery in the movie, with direct descriptions of things ripped straight from the book like Gatsby's smile, the ash highway, Nick's birthday, and of course, the light at the end of the dock. But these are superficial, like the movie, and do not go deeper than the surface level of beauty in the novel. The scene where the African American wealthy drive beside Gatsby and Nick is included, but merely nods at that depth that the novel has to give.

You do have a point though. Throughout the movie, the biggest thing that irked me was the idea that, since we could see Gatsby, we could not do a reading of the movie with Gatsby as a black character, as we could with the novel. Just this fact makes the movie seem much less malleable than the book, and thus inferior in my eyes. Even if one could critically analyze the movie as one does with the book, this detail is a significant difference that can't be overlooked, because it forever limits the way the movie can be read, making it a less interesting work to study, as it merely mimics the book's content, not adding to the deep discussion the book has already produced. I would like to see a version of this movie that isn't as whitewashed, and actually presents Gatsby as black and passing as wealthy in higher society. It would be a much more interesting version of the movie.



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Re: A Readers Lament Turned Critique
on: December 6, 2015, 13:20

I can confidently and disappointingly say that I have never watched a movie that was as good as the book! I say this with a passion that waits fervently for the day when the cinematic production of a narrative will do justice to the literature. The imagination of the human mind is so vast and endless, like a tree who's branches have endless opportunities for growth. While on the other hand, cinema has time limitations, cast inconsistencies, and finally, moods to adapt to the current time period to keep the audience engaged. Personally, I am not a fan of jazz; hence, the mashups with current music and old school in the movie did not bother me (sorry!). However, I do understand that there is a problem with casting a white-dominated band. As limited as my knowledge is, I know that jazz is an African American dominated and originated genre of music. Hence, I understand why that failure is something not easy to overlook.



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Re: A Readers Lament Turned Critique
on: December 6, 2015, 18:24

I have seen Baz Luhrmann's recent adaptation of the novel, and I am from the camp that agrees that it did a decent job adapting the text to the screen. However, I am also quite critical of the choice of music used in the film's soundtrack. It was something my cousin warned me about and I was aware of prior, but while the music holds up on its own, it is quite jarring in its implementation in the film. I agree that it was a questionable choice to have such a modern soundtrack partnered with a film that had a great opportunity to portray the setting it takes place. While visually, the film was quite impressive and delivered in some sensational scenes, I felt taken out with musical genres that did not reflect the 1920's, but rather had genres that came after that time period. I felt it almost cheapens the experience, as if the music was put in to associate modern audiences with an older time by appealing to modern tastes, yet takes away from the legitimate presentation (even though, of course, this is supposed to be a simulacrum) of the 1920's. It was a strange creative decision, and I would have expected at least modernized recordings of music from the time as opposed to modern music slapped onto the product. It becomes less a representation of 1920's America and more of a retrospective piece with modern facets applied to it.

I think it may be worth considering that Jay-Z, an African-American artist, was quite involved in the production of music for the film. While there may be a question of the lack representation of African-American artists, it may also be interesting to note that there is an artist who had a hand in calling the shots. I also question whether we can adequately assess representation in the soundtrack when the soundtrack is more identifiable with modern music than the 1920's. I'm quite confused as to what the goal of this soundtrack was.



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Re: A Readers Lament Turned Critique
on: December 7, 2015, 16:12

I too felt that Baz Luhrmann's adaptation was lackluster, despite its literal brilliance (it was full of shining lights). I felt that it mostly glossed over the nuances of the novel and, sampling certain scenes again this past semester after we discussed it in class (I saw it in theatres when it came out), I felt affirmed in my prior conclusion that it was too much invested in its superficial romantic narrative. The soundtrack album, produced by Jay-Z, does feature a slight majority of white artists, but what really reinforces that criticism of erasure, in my mind, is that Luhrmann sought out the Bryan Ferry Orchestra for the jazz numbers featured in the film and on the soundtrack. The Bryan Ferry Orchestra, led by a white man and comprised almost entirely of white men, fits in with Fitzgerald’s own choices for Jazz representation in the novel. Of course historically there were many white Jazz bands, some of them great, but it is absolutely true that all the greatest jazz musicians, (think of Louis Armstrong, Bessie Smith, Sidney Bechet, Jelly Roll Morton, Duke Ellington, Billy Strayhorn, Billie Holiday, Ella Fitzgerald, Thelonious Monk, Dinah Washington, Miles Davis, John Coltrane, Charlie Parker, Lester Young, Wynton Kelly, Charles Mingus, Coleman Hawkins, Dizzy Gillespie, Sarah Vaughan, Nat King Cole, Ethel Waters, the list goes on and on…), all the hardcore inventors and innovators of jazz music (in all its many movements, waves, and sub-genres) were black. And many of them were very political. What I found most frustrating about Jay-Z’s curated list of anachronistic popular musicians was how flat and lifeless their music for the film was, and the Bryan Ferry Orchestra, while pleasantly nostalgic, was really a snore. But I’m a hardcore jazz lover and I’m used to listening to really complicated, robust music. For me, the music and the adaptation itself were sorely lacking.

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